View Poll Results: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to abort his baby?

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  • Yes, but only during the first 20 weeks, same as a woman.

    3 2.97%
  • Yes, but only during the initial period when a non-invasive technique works.

    0 0%
  • No, but he should have the right to be legally relieved of all responsibility.

    50 49.50%
  • NO! Only the woman has this right and he remains responsible.

    21 20.79%
  • I oppose all abortion, so neither have the right.

    22 21.78%
  • I Don't Know.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    A woman does not have control over a man's medical decisions.
    Just the most important decisions any person makes in their lives.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    1. Sure.

    2. Not if she doesn't want to, and signs over all her rights like an adoption.

    At least that's how it should be.
    So you are saying that if a man takes custody of his child, the woman is not required to pay child support???

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Why in the hell should anybody have to pay for decisions that someone else made?
    Because the child was created as a result of a decision the father made
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    No, I am not. Bottom line, I am asking that women have control over their own bodies, and only their own bodies, while men have the same authority, only over their own lives. You are the one fighting for a system that gives one person undue control over another person's life.

    If you want to protect the fairness and justice in your own life, you shouldn't oppose fairness and justice in others' lives.
    The law is not supposed to create fairness in people's lives. It is only supposed to treat people fairly under the law.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Because the child was created as a result of a decision the father made
    the child was created as a result of a decision they BOTH made..... why should only one of them get a choice?
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    the child was created as a result of a decision they BOTH made..... why should only one of them get a choice?
    Well, they could rip out the zygote...cut it in half...and the man can throw his side in trash...and the woman could reimplant her half...

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    So you are saying that if a man takes custody of his child, the woman is not required to pay child support???
    I am not saying that is how it is. I am saying that is how it ought to be, IF she relinquishes her parental rights, which is what is being discussed for men here.

    If she simply becomes the non-custodial parent, then child support should still be an option for the custodial parent.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I have the right to control my body. A man cannot control what happens to my body. What is so difficult about that?
    That has nothing to do with the topic. If he pays child support or not has no effect on your right to control your body.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The law is not supposed to create fairness in people's lives. It is only supposed to treat people fairly under the law.
    Exactly. And the current child support paradigm does not do this.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Why in the hell should anybody have to pay for decisions that someone else made? Answer that question. When a woman gets pregnant, she has all of the options-- as it should be-- but why then are other people responsible for her choices? A man does not have a say in whether or nor not she bears the child. (As it should be.) A man does not have a say in whether or not she keeps the child. (As it should be.) So after she has chosen to bear the child, and she has chosen to keep the child, both without any input or authority on his part... why then, and only then, is he suddenly "equally responsible"?

    You deflect with parodies of pro-life misogynistic arguments, but nobody is willing to answer that simple question.
    So are you saying then that after the child is born she can deny him any and all contact and parental rights of the child, whether he likes it or not and whether he is willing to pay or not? Do you then extend her total-control to0 after the child is born and at any time thereafter can tell the father to kiss-off and never come around her and the child again?

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