View Poll Results: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to abort his baby?

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  • Yes, but only during the first 20 weeks, same as a woman.

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  • Yes, but only during the initial period when a non-invasive technique works.

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  • No, but he should have the right to be legally relieved of all responsibility.

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  • NO! Only the woman has this right and he remains responsible.

    21 20.79%
  • I oppose all abortion, so neither have the right.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    She can decide whether she wants to keep or abort, it's 100% her choice, although to be honest, she's kind of an idiot if she's out having sex with men that she's not committed to, just like any man who is just sleeping around is. I really would rather idiots not breed. However, it's her body, her decision. Likewise, the man ought to have the right to decide if he's going to be financially responsible for the baby, should she decide to have it. Right now, she has all the rights, he has none whatsoever.

    Equality my ass.
    Yes, I realize that. I just couldn't figure out what the argument was that the poster was trying to make, if any at all.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    For years I posted this argument and for years I was all alone getting screamed at and called names by posters here at DP. Times have certainly changed recently and I have no idea why, but it is good to see.
    But if both engage consequentially and the agreed upon from of birth control fail why should the women be reduced to choosing between abortion or the enormous financial burden of raising a child alone?
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    For years I posted this argument and for years I was all alone getting screamed at and called names by posters here at DP. Times have certainly changed recently and I have no idea why, but it is good to see.
    Yeah, it's something I've said for a long time too. I never get where people who proclaim they are for gender equality would be for something so utterly unequal as to say the woman has a choice but the man does not.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    No, but that might be a good idea, since I'm apparently not on the same wavelength as some of the posters here.
    Like a lot of people on here..you imagine things..

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    But if both engage consequentially and the agreed upon from of birth control fail why should the women be reduced to choosing between abortion or the enormous financial burden of raising a child alone?
    Why should the man be forced to pay for 18 years for a child he neither wanted, nor agreed to. Consenting to sex is not the same as consenting to reproduction.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    It's still her choice to do what she wants about the baby, and I am assuming from your question that she wants to abort the baby. If the man doesn't want her to have it, then this would not be an issue in the first place.
    No, I was not implying that would be her choice. What if she does not want the baby but feels abortion is immoral and that abandoning the child to adoption is immoral?
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    No, I was not implying that would be her choice. What if she does not want the baby but feels abortion is immoral and that abandoning the child to adoption is immoral?
    The she has to decide what to do. As I said, it's entirely her choice.

    edit: if she's that moralistic regarding having babies and being pregnant, it's not very likely that she is going to be getting pregnant in the first place, unless she's either stupid, or negligent with her own body.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Why should the man be forced to pay for 18 years for a child he neither wanted, nor agreed to. Consenting to sex is not the same as consenting to reproduction.
    it certainly is the same to consenting to the possibility of pregnancy. The way men look at this is totally skewed because they do not get pregnant. The man is responsble for taking every precaution for making certain that those swimmers don't make it if he does not keep them in wraps than he is consenting to any obligations that result form sex.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    anonymous polls suck

    I believe if there is a pregnancy, and the man offers to pay for the abortion, the woman can reject the offer but he is then relieved of any financial duties. There should be strict equality in this area.



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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    it certainly is the same to consenting to the possibility of pregnancy. The way men look at this is totally skewed because they do not get pregnant. The man is responsble for taking every precaution for making certain that those swimmers don't make it if he does not keep them in wraps than he is consenting to any obligations that result form sex.
    Then if that's true for the man, why isn't it true for the woman? Why does she get an out and the man doesn't? Come on... equality? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
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