View Poll Results: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to abort his baby?

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  • Yes, but only during the first 20 weeks, same as a woman.

    3 2.97%
  • Yes, but only during the initial period when a non-invasive technique works.

    0 0%
  • No, but he should have the right to be legally relieved of all responsibility.

    50 49.50%
  • NO! Only the woman has this right and he remains responsible.

    21 20.79%
  • I oppose all abortion, so neither have the right.

    22 21.78%
  • I Don't Know.

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Thread: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Wrong.

    It's not a disease or an illness, but pregnancy is most certainly a medical condition
    No it isn't. It can be accompanied by medical conditions and can even cause medical conditions but in and of itself, if it is a healthy pregnancy, not a medical condition and requires no "treatment."

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No it isn't. It can be accompanied by medical conditions and can even cause medical conditions but in and of itself, if it is a healthy pregnancy, not a medical condition and requires no "treatment."

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Until it's born, there is no responsibility. One cannot duck a responsibility that does not yet exist
    If there is no responsibility before the child is born, how then does the "father" become responsible afterwards? It can't be the decision to conceive the child, because that decision obviously did not create any responsibility toward the child-- either on his part or on the mother's. So what decision makes the father responsible for the born child?

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Please, more "it's not fair" whining?

    If you want "it's not fair" try being pregnant for nine months. While I was headed for pre-eclampsia (read potential organ damage and death) and needing surgery with general anesthesia to deliver my baby....I never thought that "dang, its not fair that only the mom has to go through this".
    Pregnancy is a natural function of womans body. There is nothing fair or unfair about it. It just is.

    Sorry, but the numerous physical changes and potential damages that can come from pregnancy kinda over-rides any man's "it's not fair that she can opt out, but I cannot"
    If she decides to carry the pregnancy to term then she has made a choice to accept those physical changes and potential damages. When she makes this decision it is a decision on what she wants and what she is willing to do. It has no bearing on what he wants and what he is willing to do.

    But seriously, "opting out" of supporting your child - if any pro-life individual says this...I will say that it strengthens my view that many "pro-life" people are pro-fetus and not pro-life.
    Pro-life is just a slogan. Arguing against a slogan isn't really worth anyones time.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I personally think it's the woman's responsibility to make sure that she doesn't get pregnant since it is her body, and solely her choice when it comes to the future of the baby.
    If she is to get to have all the control and make all of the choices after the fact, then she should have all of the responsibility before the fact........
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    How does a man know absolutely it's his baby to abort or not abort?

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    If she is to get to have all the control and make all of the choices after the fact, then she should have all of the responsibility before the fact........
    That's what it is that blows my mind about women who can't accept that they are solely responsible for their own bodies, and for what happens to their bodies (absent a case of rape or forced incest). They want the freedom and the choice, but they don't want to make sure that they are protected against unwanted pregnancy, not to mention the other risks they are taking with unprotected sex. This is junior high school grade knowledge here.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    If there is no responsibility before the child is born, how then does the "father" become responsible afterwards? It can't be the decision to conceive the child, because that decision obviously did not create any responsibility toward the child-- either on his part or on the mother's. So what decision makes the father responsible for the born child?
    No decision is necessary to determine the responsibility of parent...man or woman ONCE A CONCEPTION has developed past viability stage. Responsibilities are intrinsic to the social standards universally applied to both a man and woman who are identified as the biological co-creators of a viable fetus / born child.

    The DNA identifies a man and woman as being the co-conceivers of a child. DNA can be extracted prior to birth...and identified. Once identified, these joint contributors to the biological creation of an offspring are subject to social laws, which define their roles necessary to ensure the welfare of the child is maintained within the hierarchy of "basic needs"...not wants.

    Social laws also define the consequences to individuals biologically identified as the co-creators of offspring for not providing fundamental necessities to a child that is incapable for it's own food, shelter, clothing, health care...etc.

    Oh...let me add. DNA from the woman...is a bit redundant since a child will come out of her body...so obviously the man's DNA identification is bit more complex and requires a different process to indentify.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Nope, it says certain periods if you are laid up during pregnancy would be considered a medical condition related to pregnancy, also after birth, but that is only for insurance purposes.

    A lot of women have perfectly healthy pregnancies and do not get sick at all. Some feel great.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Nope, it says certain periods if you are laid up during pregnancy would be considered a medical condition related to pregnancy, also after birth, but that is only for insurance purposes.

    A lot of women have perfectly healthy pregnancies and do not get sick at all. Some feel great. It all depends on the person, and every pregnancy is different.

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