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    Re: Loving/hating a black President

    What does race have to do with being totally unqualified.

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    Re: Loving/hating a black President

    I suspect that they are not the same thing. I mean, how can love or hate ever be the same? There are plenty of conservatives who have seen black Americans state that they would support a black president no matter what, and then declared that racism, but they're missing the underlying ideas. Every black American experiences prejudice and bigotry in their life. To have a leaver who has experienced the same hardships as you, who might actually care to do something about it... you can't really call that racism. As much as some conservatives want to claim that racism is making any decisions based on race, that's not true. Racism is hurting someone because of their race. Or excluding someone because of their race. Or promoting racial superiority.

    It is a very different thing to hate someone because they are not a member of your race, the race that has the most power, than it is to support someone because they are a member of your less powerful race and may actually fight to improve conditions for an oppressed people. Doing something to prop up a race with less power is wholly different from trying to keep power concentrated to a race with more power. It's an entirely false equivalency.
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    Re: Loving/hating a black President

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Good afternoon to you, too. Excellent point. The idea that if not one, then the other must apply is nothing more than trolling when emotions are considered. We have a full range - those of us who remain emotionally stable. I've just been reading here today for the most part. Not much new, really, so not much to say. I'm bored, and considering actually going to work. It's finally cooling off here. That's exciting.
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    Re: Loving/hating a black President

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    What does race have to do with being totally unqualified.
    Which of your presidents has been qualified, for what, how? I suppose Eisenhower could have seen off the teabags in five minutes or so with a catapult, but who else was any good at anything?

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    Re: Loving/hating a black President

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    We had a series of squalls move through here last night, and it has cooled down so much that it is actually uncomfortable, requiring a heavy sweater! : The Chihuahua I am babysitting has once again brought out his maps to find the best way to escape to a more hospitable area, grumbling all the while! He blames me, of course, so I'm being ignored. The cats are loving it!
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    Re: Loving/hating a black President

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    And?

    I correctly pointed out that liberal policy depends entirely on the demographics.

    What does that have to do with partisanship?

    I always find it highly amusing when I point out similarities in two different highly partisan positions only to elicit comments wagging fingers at only one side while denying it for the other. If that isn't the very embodiment of partisanship, I don't know what is.

    Your response in true dittohead fashion about "liberals" this and that belies any protests you might make about not being partisan.When you react to a posting that ISN'T partisan and make it one, such insincere claims become downright laughable.
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    Re: Loving/hating a black President

    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Which of your presidents has been qualified, for what, how? I suppose Eisenhower could have seen off the teabags in five minutes or so with a catapult, but who else was any good at anything?
    The one that kicked your ass. Washington. And he didn't even want the job.

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    Re: Loving/hating a black President

    Absolutely and his skin color is the only reason Obama got elected in the first place, he ran on a platform of "hey, I'm black!"
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    Re: Loving/hating a black President

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Typical con strawman. If that were true, wouldn't Hermann Cain be President? Why does the right have a hard on for Dr. Carson? He doesn't say anything white guys don't say.

    Democrats like Democrats and Republicans like Republicans. They both hate the other side. It usually has nothing to do with race.
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    Re: Loving/hating a black President

    It's a bit different if you are a member of a group that has been systematically marginalized and that person shares that identity.

    I can admit it, I liked that Jill Biden and Cindy McCain had a sizable background in special education. I also liked that Sarah Palin had a child with a disability. There are some experiences that can frequently help in making policy changes. Now, folks would say one person or another has a larger history with such and such experiences than the others do, or that one will do more for one group than another, but it is something I do admit considering.

    Did it amount to the totality of who I would support? No. For one thing, I ended up not voting for McCain because of Palin being on the ticket, and I just happened to like Joe's policy vision more than Obama's.
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