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    Are You Fine with the NSA Sharing Data with Israel?

    Because they've done it. Yes or no.

    EDIT: To clarify, this is your personal data that is being shared with Israel.
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    Re: Are You Fine with the NSA Sharing Data with Israel?

    It largely depends on the circumstance. As one example, I'd support data swapping in the event that a homegrown terror cell could potentially pose harm to overseas interests.

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    Re: Are You Fine with the NSA Sharing Data with Israel?

    We've been exchanging data with Israel and vice-versa for as long as Israel has existed. This is not a revelation.

    EDIT: To clarify, nobody in Israel is interested in my personal information. If I start getting spam from Tel Aviv trying to sell me property in the West Bank, then I'll be concerned. Otherwise, not so much.
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    Re: Are You Fine with the NSA Sharing Data with Israel?

    If it includes personal info on American citizens who are NOT suspected terrorists, I have a problem with that. From what I heard, this is the case.

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    Re: Are You Fine with the NSA Sharing Data with Israel?

    Yes, Israel is an important ally and excellent source of intel. If we had numbers used by terrorists here and didn't share the info with Israel, that would be stupid.

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    Re: Are You Fine with the NSA Sharing Data with Israel?

    It doesn't matter what we think. Nothing will stop it and it isn't like Israel hasn't been caught spying on the US anyway.

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    Re: Are You Fine with the NSA Sharing Data with Israel?

    I am not fine with the NSA having my information nevermind them sharing it...

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    Re: Are You Fine with the NSA Sharing Data with Israel?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Because they've done it. Yes or no.

    EDIT: To clarify, this is your personal data that is being shared with Israel.
    I'm not OK with the NSA collecting it in the first place, let alone selling it to Israel. For whatever reason we're giving crap to Israel for.
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    Re: Are You Fine with the NSA Sharing Data with Israel?

    Generally speaking intelligence information is shared with other nations when the venue is to enable joint operations, when the information is given to us by that other nation, or when it is part of a shared collection mission (as an example, part of the deal of setting up a collection platform in an allied country can be that the information gathered is shared with the host-nation). One target is transnational networks that violate arms-shipment restrictions; so, for example, if the NSA and the Mossad were sharing information targeting people trying to smuggle weapons either from the U.S. to Gaza or visa-versa (as a single example), then that would make sense.


    We probably get quite a lot from our intelligence relationship with the Israelis. No one else is better at collecting on the kinds of loose networks of Islamic Jihadists than they are, and deciding to end that relationship because we are aghast at the notion that a U.S. citizen might be a bad actor would be.... well, it would be a very bad idea.

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    Re: Are You Fine with the NSA Sharing Data with Israel?

    Sure. Share it. I've already told the NSA all their information about me is wrong by about 180 degrees. I am not a dog. Just because I use a picture of one in place of my actual photo does not constitute proof of all they contend.

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