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    Re: Who Will Look More Ridiculous?

    Quote Originally Posted by greengirl77 View Post
    So where was your outrage when Bush 2 let diplomates die his scorecard is way higher than Obama. Military mind set my patutity
    Patutity? Sounds complicated.

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    Re: Who Will Look More Ridiculous?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    Meh. They're entitled to their opinions but as your article states:



    For me that's what matters here.

    This might be a gloat worthy "gotcha moment" for partisans but I don't see how this really affects the argument one way or the other.
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    It's her connection with a group called the Syrian Emergency Task Force that I find troubling. The Journal, when it first published the op-ed didn't include that bit of information and since has. This organization subcontracts with the U.S. and British governments "to provide aid to the Syrian opposition." . And the Institute for the Study of Wars didn't mention it either in her bio that previously appeared on their website. O'Bagy was listed as having issued "major reports" on the Syrian opposition. The bio said she "traveled extensively to the region to gain perspective on the situation." The bio said she had received her Master's and Ph.D. in Arab Studies and Political Science at Georgetown. It said she also had a bachelor's in Arabic and Arab Studies from the same university. But according to Georgetown, she isn't listed as a student in a Ph.D program. They do however recognize her Masters. If Kerry and this administration is going to bring her op ed piece before a congressional hearing to make the case for intervening in a civil war, don't you think the fact she is a government contractor involved in arming the rebels should have been disclosed? I do.
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    Re: Who Will Look More Ridiculous?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Patutity? Sounds complicated.
    : I always thought I had a reasonable command of the English language, but "patutity" was new to me. Apparently it's new to Webster's Dictionary, too, since it is not listed! Must be a horrible disease known only to a few doctors worldwide, and they have agreed never to discuss it except at medical seminars! :

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    Re: Who Will Look More Ridiculous?

    Quote Originally Posted by greengirl77 View Post
    So where was your outrage when Bush 2 let diplomates die his scorecard is way higher than Obama. Military mind set my patutity
    Perhaps "patootie" was intended?
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    Re: Who Will Look More Ridiculous?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Maybe
    It's her connection with a group called the Syrian Emergency Task Force that I find troubling. The Journal, when it first published the op-ed didn't include that bit of information and since has. This organization subcontracts with the U.S. and British governments "to provide aid to the Syrian opposition." . And the Institute for the Study of Wars didn't mention it either in her bio that previously appeared on their website. O'Bagy was listed as having issued "major reports" on the Syrian opposition. The bio said she "traveled extensively to the region to gain perspective on the situation." The bio said she had received her Master's and Ph.D. in Arab Studies and Political Science at Georgetown. It said she also had a bachelor's in Arabic and Arab Studies from the same university. But according to Georgetown, she isn't listed as a student in a Ph.D program. They do however recognize her Masters. If Kerry and this administration is going to bring a witness before a congressional hearing to make the case for intervening in a civil war, don't you think the fact she is a government contractor involved in arming the rebels should have been disclosed? I do.
    : I hope it is also mentioned at said congressional hearing, just for clarification regarding her credentials, and the reason Kerry chose her to speak as a witness!

    Greetings, Vesper.

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    Re: Who Will Look More Ridiculous?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Putin played Obama & Co. like a fiddle. They can't very well sit there with a comical look and an awe shucks, they have to try to save face...

    So, when trying to take credit for what Putin did, who will look more ridiculous?
    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    Seriously?

    What other options did he have?

    Press for an attack that the American people will not stand for. Get denied. Look like a fool AND a BUSH#2

    or

    Not press for an attack, and look like a fool.

    or

    Attack anyways and play into the Right Wing's hands.

    Any of these 3 options would have placed the Affordable Care Act in Jeopardy by way of getting hammered in 2014.
    Obama has found the one and only option to save face and save 2014.
    Maybe for an Obama hater, it was meaningless. But for his base and just over half the Nation, he managed to save the day.
    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Nice try, but just more bull**** spin.

    1. Bush #2 went to congress twice to get approval for military action and both times the persuasion of his character and his strength of purpose ruled the day and congress approved both times - don't dare compare the milquetoast, unprincipled, talking bag of gas Obama with a man of character.

    2. Obama tripped into a pile of crap of his own making and then didn't even have the balls to own up to it and tried to blame it on others.

    3. Kerry, looking tired from travel the rigors of diplomacy, answered a serious question with a foolish answer before his brain got in gear and thus dumped both he and Obama into another pile of crap and you see that as a face saving brilliant move. Just what level of sycophantic delusion is necessary to exist in that alternate reality?

    4. Obama is an idiot, and a dangerous one at that, because he doesn't know he's an idiot and everyone else does.
    The first question I asked myself in considering a reply was, "What exactly did Putin do?"

    Answer: Take action on a straight-forward recommendation proposed by Sec. Kerry during negotiations with Putin and Russia's Foreign Minister (the equivalent to our Secretary of State), towit: "Syria could avoid an American attack by turning over 'every single bit of his chemical weapons to the international community in the next week.'"

    The only way Pres. Obama or SoS Kerry look foolish is if negotiations breakdown OR if Syria does exactly what many believe Iraq did w/their chemical weapons stockpile - move them to another country in hiding. Based on media reports it looks as though Syria is very willing to capitulate and not only turn over their entire chemical weapons stockpile but also halt production of chemical weapons altogether.

    Source: USAToday article, "Syrian FM: Syria will sign chemical ban, open storage sites"

    If they follow through, I'd say Kerry's gaff will turn out to be a smart bold suggestion, Pres. Obama will come away looking stronger for not backing down completely on his threat to use military force, if necessary, as well as pragmatic on the world stage for listening to his people (Congress and U.S. citizens) and world leaders and allowing for a diplomatic solution rather than violence.

    The verdict is still out, but I'd say "heads, we win" on this one assming things play out as is being reported.
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    Re: Who Will Look More Ridiculous?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Maybe
    It's her connection with a group called the Syrian Emergency Task Force that I find troubling. The Journal, when it first published the op-ed didn't include that bit of information and since has. This organization subcontracts with the U.S. and British governments "to provide aid to the Syrian opposition." . And the Institute for the Study of Wars didn't mention it either in her bio that previously appeared on their website. O'Bagy was listed as having issued "major reports" on the Syrian opposition. The bio said she "traveled extensively to the region to gain perspective on the situation." The bio said she had received her Master's and Ph.D. in Arab Studies and Political Science at Georgetown. It said she also had a bachelor's in Arabic and Arab Studies from the same university. But according to Georgetown, she isn't listed as a student in a Ph.D program. They do however recognize her Masters. If Kerry and this administration is going to bring her op ed piece before a congressional hearing to make the case for intervening in a civil war, don't you think the fact she is a government contractor involved in arming the rebels should have been disclosed? I do.
    Again, I'm not that interested in if her resume was embellished or outright false.

    I'm interested in whether Syria used chemical weapons against its people.

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    Re: Who Will Look More Ridiculous?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Perhaps "patootie" was intended?
    I hope so, since I spent some time trying to find out the meaning of the word she used!

    Good afternoon, Jack!

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    Re: Who Will Look More Ridiculous?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    I hope so, since I spent some time trying to find out the meaning of the word she used!

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    Re: Who Will Look More Ridiculous?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    : I hope it is also mentioned at said congressional hearing, just for clarification regarding her credentials, and the reason Kerry chose her to speak as a witness!

    Greetings, Vesper.
    Greetings to you Polgara, I must clarify that O'bagy didn't physically testify but that Kerry and McCain introduced her testimony through her writings/opinions to try and make the case for military involvement. If you watched the hearings, Kerry and McCain relied heavily on her opinions. They referred to her as "Doctor O'bagy", the one without a ph.D. Send in the clowns.

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