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    Re: How was the President's speech?

    Republicans blow Kennedy without realizing that this whole thing was Obama's Cuban Missile Crisis. Instead of sending the world into WWIII, he put the Syrians in a position where they can't risk any more WMD incidents.
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    Re: How was the President's speech?

    Chris Matthews showed a clip today of Goldwater accusing JFK of politicizing the timing of the Cuban missile crisis to affect the 1962 mid-terms.
    Goldwater later showed no proof.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Republicans blow Kennedy without realizing that this whole thing was Obama's Cuban Missile Crisis. Instead of sending the world into WWIII, he put the Syrians in a position where they can't risk any more WMD incidents.

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    Re: How was the President's speech?

    Where is the "I didn't watch it because his words hold no water" choice?
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    Re: How was the President's speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Republicans blow Kennedy without realizing that this whole thing was Obama's Cuban Missile Crisis. Instead of sending the world into WWIII, he put the Syrians in a position where they can't risk any more WMD incidents.
    Pres Obama's Cuban Missile Crisis? lol. You do realize that the Cuban Missile Crisis involved a direct threat to the US while this was simply another ruthless Arab chem'ing his own people right? Not to downplay the seriousness of that to the Syrian people but it poses absolutely NO THREAT to the AMERICAN PEOPLE. That's the difference. Comparing those two events is ridiculous in my opinion.
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    Re: How was the President's speech?

    I thought his speech was perhaps a little slurred. His eyes were glazed. Pulse was probably a bit elevated with respirations to match. I really didn't pay any attention to the speech itself. He looked like an old sour puss, talking in short bursts. He blew it months before on this issue, and no speech can paper over that.

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    Re: How was the President's speech?

    He did seem to be saying that we shouldn't pay any attention at all to the ACA rollout. Could swear I heard that.

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    Re: How was the President's speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Pres Obama's Cuban Missile Crisis? lol. You do realize that the Cuban Missile Crisis involved a direct threat to the US while this was simply another ruthless Arab chem'ing his own people right? Not to downplay the seriousness of that to the Syrian people but it poses absolutely NO THREAT to the AMERICAN PEOPLE. That's the difference. Comparing those two events is ridiculous in my opinion.
    You're so ignorant of history it's not even funny. The Cuba Missile Crisis was never about a direct thread to the US. It was about the Russians securing their interests in the Baltics and around the Black Sea. Just like they've now secured their interests in the Middle East. That's why they set up missiles in Cuba. Not to threaten the US but to force the US' hand into declaring it would look away from Cuba and dismantle in Turkey. The only people foolish enough to think we couldn't have blow them back to oblivion in Cuba are commies.
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    Re: How was the President's speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You're so ignorant of history it's not even funny. The Cuba Missile Crisis was never about a direct thread to the US. It was about the Russians securing their interests in the Baltics and around the Black Sea. Just like they've now secured their interests in the Middle East. That's why they set up missiles in Cuba. Not to threaten the US but to force the US' hand into declaring it would look away from Cuba and dismantle in Turkey. The only people foolish enough to think we couldn't have blow them back to oblivion in Cuba are commies.
    Oh okay. So we were cool with missiles being that close to the continental US thereby allowing them to range the entire country? It wasn't really about that? It wasn't that the USSR was attempting to build ICBM sites in Cuba so that they would have the ability to strike us in the manner that we could strike them? That's why they were so secretive about it right? Thanks for educating me
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    Re: How was the President's speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Oh okay. So we were cool with missiles being that close to the continental US thereby allowing them to range the entire country?
    Not really, the Russians never really posed a threat to the US in Cuba. They even managed to continue selling weapons to the Cubans long after the missile crisis. We however, posed a serious threat to them in the Baltics, Mediterranean and Black Sea. What happened after the missile crisis? You think Kennedy actually won? He dismantled our nukes in the area in exchange for the Russians taking away theirs and the Republicans still blow him over that fact. As I said, in 20 years, they'll be praising Obama for doing exactly what JFK did.

    It wasn't really about that? It wasn't that the USSR was attempting to build ICBM sites in Cuba so that they would have the ability to strike us in the manner that we could strike them? That's why they were so secretive about it right? Thanks for educating me
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    Re: How was the President's speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Good speech or bad speech?


    I could not stay awake........very boring.
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