View Poll Results: How important is Preventing Iran from acquiring Nuclear Weapons?

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  • Most important crisis humankind has ever faced.

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  • Extremely Important.

    26 55.32%
  • Good to stop them, but not super important.

    6 12.77%
  • Who cares... It really doesn't matter.

    13 27.66%
  • It would be a good thing if they got nuclear weapons.

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    Re: How important is it to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Seriously?

    The Russians don't come to mind? You know, leaving active nuclear weapons guarded by poorly paid soldiers and chain linked fences?
    Or how about literal mountains of fissile material unguarded?
    Not quite in the same league as actually dropping them on civilian populaces, now is it?

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    Re: How important is it to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I agree. The US is the only country that has proved it cannot be trusted with owning nuclear weapons. But whatya gonna do?
    No one knew at the time so no trust was needed. I'm not aware of the US nuking anyone in the last 60 years and I think most reasonable people would be cautious of Muslim's ushering in a new caliphate getting nukes. Do you share that caution?
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    Re: How important is it to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Not quite in the same league as actually dropping them on civilian populaces, now is it?
    Perhaps, but the risk is quite higher from the Russians. The US use was during the war against a military target.

    The Russian's terrible security leaves virtually everyone open to a nuclear or dirty bomb attack by allowing non-state actors to get a hold of them.

    The US used atomic weapons in the context of a war. The Russians' security of such weapons puts the whole world in danger.
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    Re: How important is it to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons?

    The world is increasingly becoming a more dangerous place. I think we will unfortuantely see some mushroom clouds go off in our lifetimes. If I were to guess where Iran would be on a list at or near the top.
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    Re: How important is it to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    No one knew at the time so no trust was needed. I'm not aware of the US nuking anyone in the last 60 years and I think most reasonable people would be cautious of Muslim's ushering in a new caliphate getting nukes. Do you share that caution?
    No. The governments of these countries aren't suicidal. They know that they'll be obliterated if they use them.

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    Re: How important is it to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    No. The governments of these countries aren't suicidal. They know that they'll be obliterated if they use them.
    The vast majority of the time I would agree they would not be suicidal, however the ONLY religious group that has shown itself to be suicidal or to use suicide with the promise of eternal life and mixing religious / political goals against others in recent times has been the Islamic religion. Certainly I don't want to paint a broad brush here, but given a choice between say Peru getting nukes and Iran getting nukes, I'd be much more worried about Iran.
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    Re: How important is it to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The vast majority of the time I would agree they would not be suicidal, however the ONLY religious group that has shown itself to be suicidal or to use suicide with the promise of eternal life and mixing religious / political goals against others in recent times has been the Islamic religion. Certainly I don't want to paint a broad brush here, but given a choice between say Peru getting nukes and Iran getting nukes, I'd be much more worried about Iran.
    What Middle East government has done something that they knew would get them obliterated? I haven't seen any suicidal acts, have you?

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    Re: How important is it to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons?

    Only an Iranian nuclear capability will stop the Zionist Nazis. It is what they call MAD in America.

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    Re: How important is it to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    What Middle East government has done something that they knew would get them obliterated? I haven't seen any suicidal acts, have you?
    Not at a country level, but I guess there's always a first time. And really - when the leaders and soldiers of a country believe so strongly that they will live forever in paradise and are taught such a thing since first out of the womb, would they worry about being obliterated? I don't think so...
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    Re: How important is it to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    The US use was during the war against a military target.
    I think you know that that is not true. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not military targets, even though the strategic objective may have been, although you could say that about any attack on centres of civilian population.
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