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Thread: Are the republicans voting against syria for the right reasons?

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    Re: Are the republicans voting against syria for the right reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Who are you talking about? I don't see many liberals banging the war machine drum. Care to point out what the hell you are talking about? I agree that if there are, they are just as hypocritical as the party of No.
    I have heard a number of liberals say they might support an attack because they support Obama. How is that any different than opposing an attack because you oppose Obama?

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    Re: Are the republicans voting against syria for the right reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Who are you talking about? I don't see many liberals banging the war machine drum. Care to point out what the hell you are talking about? I agree that if there are, they are just as hypocritical as the party of No.
    The entire WH including Kerry have been whipping up support all week. "Someone" even provided CNN with "exclusive" video (that's what CNN was calling it yesterday) of suffering Syrian's dying of what apparently was a Sarin gas as an overt appeal to emotion to sway American attitudes towards military action.

    If I provide links - would it really matter since you also can Google... Denis McDonough will be on the Sunday talk shows today, Obama will be on all 6 major Cable and Broadcast news stations tomorrow arguing for Syrian strikes. Feinstein putting together those same 18 videos of suffering to support military action in support of it as well. I'm not saying all Democrats... but the entire WH, and more than a few in the Senate = many to me. My own Senator who votes 97% with the Democratic party is in favor as well.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Are the republicans voting against syria for the right reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Well compared to the other guy that evolved on abortion, gay marraige, health care, taxes, and almost any other issue you can think of, that doesn't sound too bad.
    my original post was sarcasm......but it just perturbs you that many republicans are opposing military action because they are just people who like everybody else can have diffferent views on different subjects under different circumstances and dont fit some kind of mold that you have defined for yourself...or the media defined for you.......

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    Re: Are the republicans voting against syria for the right reasons?

    I don't think you can homogenize 'the rignt' on this issue at all.

    You have hawks, doves, the war weary, maverics, partisans and ideologues.

    There are many on the right who support military action here, and many who do not. I think its very unfair and inaccurate to characterize the opposition on the right to be mostly partisan. It is not. There are a lot of people who are non interventionist in the first place on the right (many libertarians for example) as well as many who are burned after supporting the action we took in Iraq, and who are not willing to go down that path another time. I fit in both those molds more firmly than just being 'against Obama'.

    Of course built into it is the opposition of one party to another.

    But that is hardly something unique to the right.

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    Re: Are the republicans voting against syria for the right reasons?

    I am against it for the RIGHT reasons but conservatives must be against it for the WRONG reasons.

    Thats just so ****ing goofy.

    Hey...heres a better question...all those democrats that are FOR the war effort just because they dont want Obama to look bad...what does that make THEM?

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    Re: Are the republicans voting against syria for the right reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    I oppose the syrian war and i hope it gets voted down, but i fear that that some republicans might be voting against it just because they don't want to give obama any sort of political victory. I believe some of republicans like ron paul truly do oppose the war, but there are quite a few republicans who supported iraq and will vote against syria. what do you guys think?
    I also don't understand why you would "fear" that if it is the outcome you desire...unless you think people should vote the way you would for the reasons you think are primary. I'm guessing your real questions is "would they vote for it if Obama wasn't the president requesting it" - and - "is that fair?" The answer to both is yes.

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    Re: Are the republicans voting against syria for the right reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Utility Man View Post
    And...what are the democrats saying?

    Partisan hacks are partisan and hackish...

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    Re: Are the republicans voting against syria for the right reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I have heard a number of liberals say they might support an attack because they support Obama. How is that any different than opposing an attack because you oppose Obama?
    I think that would be few and far between. I don't know of many liberals who are supporting military action in Syria. But you are correct. If there were any, they would be just as big of a hypocrite as the Republicans.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Are the republicans voting against syria for the right reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The entire WH including Kerry have been whipping up support all week. "Someone" even provided CNN with "exclusive" video (that's what CNN was calling it yesterday) of suffering Syrian's dying of what apparently was a Sarin gas as an overt appeal to emotion to sway American attitudes towards military action.

    If I provide links - would it really matter since you also can Google... Denis McDonough will be on the Sunday talk shows today, Obama will be on all 6 major Cable and Broadcast news stations tomorrow arguing for Syrian strikes. Feinstein putting together those same 18 videos of suffering to support military action in support of it as well. I'm not saying all Democrats... but the entire WH, and more than a few in the Senate = many to me. My own Senator who votes 97% with the Democratic party is in favor as well.
    I reiterate what I said, I suspect that the only Democrats who will vote for this idiotic attack would be the same fools who voted for military action in Iraq. At last THAT would be consistent. However, I am hoping that most vote against military action.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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