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How Important is Space Exploration as a National Interest?

How Important is Space Exploration as a National Interest?

  • Very, we should be sending men back to the moon, to Mars, and beyond

    Votes: 39 67.2%

  • Somewhat, but we should stick to sending probes

    Votes: 4 6.9%

  • Not very important now, maybe in the future

    Votes: 9 15.5%

  • Not at all, it's a distraction and a waste of money

    Votes: 9 15.5%

  • Space is boring.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    58
AngryOldGuy said:
hah Your Star imagine how much we will have evolved by then?
current humans will seem like heck I can't even imagine it
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Not matter how much we have evolved, if we still exist, having our planet burn up from the Sun would be a fatal to the species. We've got time, lots of it, but we need to start advancing our space program now.

Who knows what we will find out there?
 
aberrant85 said:
If I had $1M to spare I would totally do it. That news woman in the vid is a real b****, mocking the station for not having four-star dining. HOW ABOUT THE ACTUAL F***ING STARS???
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Well think about it for a minute
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.....1 mil. No alcohol, smoking, weed either.
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Your Star said:
Not matter how much we have evolved, if we still exist, having our planet burn up from the Sun would be a fatal to the species. We've got time, lots of it, but we need to start advancing our space program now.

Who knows what we will find out there?
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We have about 2 bil years. Chill. The problem isn't time, it's sorting things out stuff on the planet.
 
Rainman05 said:
We have about 2 bil years. Chill. The problem isn't time, it's sorting things out stuff on the planet.
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It might take a good chunk of that time to be able to unlock the secrets of long distance interstellar travel. Especially to the point where colonizing another world outside our solar system would be feasible.
 
Your Star said:
Not matter how much we have evolved, if we still exist, having our planet burn up from the Sun would be a fatal to the species. We've got time, lots of it, but we need to start advancing our space program now.
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I don't think that will happen anytime soon. :lol:
 
Your Star said:
It might take a good chunk of that time to be able to unlock the secrets of long distance interstellar travel. Especially to the point where colonizing another world outside our solar system would be feasible.
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I don't think we need 2 billion years worth of time to figure it out.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
how much iron can be potentially be mined out of an asteroid?
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Asteroid-Mining Project Aims for Deep-Space Colonies

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An artist's concept of a wheel habitat under construction at an asteroid, a vision of space settlement by the asteroid-mining company Deep Space Industries.

A new asteroid-mining company launched Tuesday with the goal of helping humanity expand across the solar system by tapping the vast riches of space rocks.

The new firm, called Deep Space Industries, Inc., announced today (Jan. 22) that it plans to launch a fleet of prospecting spacecraft in 2015, then begin harvesting metals and water from near-Earth asteroids within a decade or so. Such work could make it possible to build and refuel spacecraft far above our planet's surface, thus helping our species get a foothold in the final frontier.....snip~

New Asteroid-Mining Company Aims to Spur Space Settlement | Space.com

According to these guys using resources harvested in space is the only way to afford permanent space development.
 
Henrin said:
I don't think that will happen anytime soon. :lol:
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That is the last possible thing that could kill us off on Earth. There are lots of ways it could happen much sooner, an asteroid, horrible disease, nuclear war, etc. To survive as a species we need to take care of our planet, but also expand out into the stars.
 
Your Star said:
That is the last possible thing that could kill us off on Earth. There are lots of ways it could happen much sooner, an asteroid, horrible disease, nuclear war, etc. To survive as a species we need to take care of our planet, but also expand out into the stars.
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Yeah, whatever. :roll:
 
Seems some people are having Star Trek/Star Wars dreams.

Regardless, Space exploration is very important. We need to progress without ceasing, I just hope I get to see some sort of grand breakthrough in my lifetime -- fingers crossed.
 
DDD said:
We have the means and they were right in front of your noses all this time! I cannot believe you felt for it! Here is one sample of the rockets that have been flying to various planets ever since 16th century:


It runs on prayer energy. This in fact is the only clementine image taken since.

So you want our secrets? It shall costs yah! :tongue4:
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You are aware of the Intergalactic Borders Space Patrol ? Illegal aliens usually find themselves in a black hole.

For us it's Manifest Destiny. We are just trying to return from where our ancestors came from thousands of years ago.

Thousands of years ago the Perseus Confederacy picked the planet Earth to be used as a space penal colony. After checking out South America and what is today the Middle East, it was discovered that these areas were already occupied by Earthlings who still had a foot in the stone age. So the Perseus Confederacy chose what is today Northern Europe to be used as a penal colony.

After thousands of year the descendent's of the original convicts decided why should we be punished living on this basket case of a planet for the crimes our ancestors committed thousands of years ago ?

So it's been our "Manifest Destiny" to return too our real home where our ancestors came from, the Perseus Arm of the Milkyway Galaxy.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Galactic_Quadrant_Star_Trek.png
 
APACHERAT said:
Even before Obama's sequestration there is no government manned spacecraft in the pipeline.

In fact Obama has told Congress that he wants depend on Russia for putting Americans into space. Putin has no problem with American greenbacks. It just means less greenbacks in America's economy and more in Russia's economy.

There is the American private sector who have manned spacecraft in the pipeline.
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Well Gingrich wasn't that far off with his idea of Colonizing the Moon.....we should be moving forward to do that. Its logical that we should have some colony or base upon the Moon. We know there is water already on the moon. So it would be finding way to sterilize and made accessible to those that would live or be based there.

I say Base as In Military, Uptop on the Surface and tunneled in.....Training for that environment. Able to rotate back to the planet. Extra set of eyes and ears out there. Moreover we need to do this as a Sovereign Country and not some united effort with others.
 
Van Basten said:
Seems some people are having Star Trek/Star Wars dreams.

Regardless, Space exploration is very important. We need to progress without ceasing, I just hope I get to see some sort of grand breakthrough in my lifetime -- fingers crossed.
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Yeah, we shall see if the Russian's put up that hotel or the mining company launch their ships in 2015. Course Branson is working on something too.
 
specklebang said:
Isn't the private sector always better than the government?
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But I always enjoyed what was developed by the military industrial complex which also includes NASA. Like the internet, cordless tools, tubeless tires, microwave ovens, GPS, cell phones, commercial jet airliners, weather satellites, scary looking rifles that liberals call assault weapons, etc. etc. etc. ...
 
APACHERAT said:
But I always enjoyed what was developed by the military industrial complex which also includes NASA. Like the internet, cordless tools, tubeless tires, microwave ovens, GPS, cell phones, commercial jet airliners, weather satellites, scary looking rifles that liberals call assault weapons, etc. etc. etc. ...
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Heya Apache.....these guys even mention NASA's plans to build a station on the moon. Which we know is tied with Grants with the Air Force/ Air Space Command.

 
Btw.....Were going back to the Moon. Just past midnight.
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NASA launches robotic explorer to moon from Va.; trouble develops early in much-viewed flight

NASA’s newest robotic explorer rocketed into space late Friday in an unprecedented moonshot from Virginia that dazzled sky watchers along the East Coast.

But the LADEE spacecraft quickly ran into equipment trouble, and while NASA assured everyone early Saturday that the lunar probe was safe and on a perfect track for the moon, officials acknowledged the problem needs to be resolved in the next two to three weeks.

The LADEE spacecraft, which is charged with studying the lunar atmosphere and dust, soared aboard an unmanned Minotaur rocket a little before midnight from Virginia’s Eastern Shore.

“Godspeed on your journey to the moon, LADEE,” Launch Control said. Flight controllers applauded and exchanged high-fives following the successful launch. “We are headed to the moon!” NASA said in a tweet.....snip~


NASA launches robotic explorer to moon from Va.; trouble develops early in much-viewed flight - The Washington Post
 
Surtr said:
And that's where space flight will gain true legitimacy. The government just wants good PR, and rocks to put in a museum. The private sector will want results and profit, and that's how we move forward. Keeping it government only will only perpetuate the state of stagnation our space program has faced since the 70's.
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I don't think the U.S. government should completely drop out of manned space exploration. But Obama has already made that descion. Obama isn't the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. He lacks the knowledge of history.

It may have been the British Crown and the Royal Navy and Spanish Crown and the Spanish Navy who discovered the "New World" and explored the oceans.

But when you look at America and how we expanded westward and conquered the frontier. It was the military who first explored and mapped and surveyed the West. That was the job of the Army Corps of Engineers. Lewis and Clark as an example.

But it was "Manifest Destiny" where it was the private sector who actually settled the West, not the military. But the military always followed close behind.

I'm sure you have seen John Gast painting that most refer to America's Manifest Destiny. The actual title of the painting is "America's Progress."

Look at it closely. No liberal revisionism is seen. You also don't see the American Army, they always followed close behind.

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The U.S. military has to play a significant part in manned space exploration and it can't depend on Russia or China for manned space transportation.
 
MMC said:
Heya Apache.....these guys even mention NASA's plans to build a station on the moon. Which we know is tied with Grants with the Air Force/ Air Space Command.
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I have a few friends who work at CAL-TECH and JPL and they aren't happy campers with Obama in the White House and his total neglect of what they were trying to accomplish.

In fact last week I was visiting one of them. I mentioned how I have to work with the Burial of Land Management and the U.S. Forest Service with the project I'm involved with right now and they tell me with Obama it's as if nobody is in charge. We see the same thing with the IRS and DHS. My friend gets up looking pissed and say's exactly, nobody is in charge any longer.

This guy who Obama put in charge of NASA is second rate just like everyone else in the Obama administration. NASA is now in the business of social engineering. Got to reach out to the Muslims is the top priority of NASA.
 
aberrant85 said:
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/09/06/science/ap-us-sci-nasa-moonshot.html?hp

We just shot a cool new probe to the moon, but how important is space exploration to the future of America? Is there none? Do we need to get back up there?
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Human ambition to explore the cosmos always peeks my interest, but how do we explore extraterrestrial planets when humans can't even get along here? We still haven't even explored our oceans at least our entire ocean. Our planet's ecosystem is in trouble, and humans still fight over petty things such as religion, money, and land.
 
it's a lot more important than many other things we spend money on, and i would increase science funding significantly. of course, i'm a scientist, so i suppose that i might be a bit biased. :lol:
 
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