View Poll Results: How Important is Space Exploration as a National Interest?

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  • Very, we should be sending men back to the moon, to Mars, and beyond

    48 68.57%
  • Somewhat, but we should stick to sending probes

    4 5.71%
  • Not very important now, maybe in the future

    11 15.71%
  • Not at all, it's a distraction and a waste of money

    10 14.29%
  • Space is boring.

    0 0%
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    Re: How Important is Space Exploration as a National Interest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
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    There are more advantages than disadvantages, thus providing a net gain to our nation (and the world).
    None of that is even remotely doable, none zip zero zilch nada
    Last thing we need is another government rathole to pour money down
    Fine private enterprise wants to try and make money lofting satellites into orbit
    and running resupply missions to the ISS that is all well and good.

    We haven't gotten anywhere near the level of technological advancement
    required to even begin to start trying to accomplish the things you've listed.

    If you wanna spend money here is where you could put it.
    If you wanna favorably alter the course of human history.

    Let's develop commercial power generation from fusion.

    Imagine a world with virtually free and unlimited energy!

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    Re: How Important is Space Exploration as a National Interest?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013...onshot.html?hp

    We just shot a cool new probe to the moon, but how important is space exploration to the future of America? Is there none? Do we need to get back up there?
    It's very important, maybe even vitally important. Humanity's eggs are all in one basket now. If we really want to secure the long-term future of our species, we need to be getting off this planet.
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    Re: How Important is Space Exploration as a National Interest?

    that's all well and good but you are going to need something a scratch better than this


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    Re: How Important is Space Exploration as a National Interest?

    I like the idea of sending probes only unless it's determined beforehand that we'll access resources on the trip that will finance it.

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    Re: How Important is Space Exploration as a National Interest?

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    Let's develop commercial power generation from fusion.

    Imagine a world with virtually free and unlimited energy!
    Why do you think that this is the case? Fusion power wouldn't be free or unlimited. Much like a fission reactor, most of the costs involved in running a fusion reactor would not be tied to the materials that actually fuel the reactor, they would be capital costs for actually building the power plant, and staffing costs to run it. It would also not be unlimited (or at least not for a very long time). ITER and the NIF, which are the two most promising fusion power projects ongoing at the moment, both use a deuterium-tritium reaction. And both those materials are considerably rarer than normal hydrogen.

    Fusion power generation would do a lot for the world, but it's not a miracle cure.
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    Re: How Important is Space Exploration as a National Interest?

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    that's all well and good but you are going to need something a scratch better than this

    Indeed we are, which is all the more reason to get started now.
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    Re: How Important is Space Exploration as a National Interest?

    Very Important.
    When a society or culture stops being interested and curious it is in decline.
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    Re: How Important is Space Exploration as a National Interest?

    hah yeah yer right Brooks and the space race was fueled by the cold war Sad isn't it?

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    Re: How Important is Space Exploration as a National Interest?

    "Much like a fission reactor"

    it is the opposite, and there's no radioactive waste to deal with and it can't 'melt-down'
    so the construction costs would be far lower and the stupid govt. regulation that has throttled the nuke power industry
    wouldn't be necessary and on and on and on...

    um ok first the oceans are filled with deuterium and do you know where tritium comes from? hint it is man made
    and the ITER and the NIF are dead ends, just experiments, they will never work in the long run.
    besides the deuterium–tritium (DT) fuel cycle is non-optimal anyway

    Because Aneutronic fusion would be far better!!!

    I could try to get you to see that the clean unlimited virtually FREE boundless energy that we can command
    through fusion would go ten times further in promoting mankind's existence than sending a probe too (anywhere)

    butt if we are ever to get off this rock we will need to have command of greater energy sources that sticking dinosaurs
    in chemical rockets, we will need a whole new set of physics that goes beyond Einstein and what better way to get there
    than in the pursuit of fusion power?

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    Re: How Important is Space Exploration as a National Interest?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Interplanetary S&M?
    Yes......it entails Dark matter.

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