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    Re: Who Supported Military Intervention in Libya? (POLL)

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
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    Re: Who Supported Military Intervention in Libya? (POLL)

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    i haven't supported any of our actions, dating back to wwii.
    wwii???

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    Re: Who Supported Military Intervention in Libya? (POLL)

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    wwii???
    Ummm, having trouble with the quote function, eh?
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    Re: Who Supported Military Intervention in Libya? (POLL)

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    It's known as the "Weinberger Doctrine."

    It's incorrectly referred to the "Powell Doctrine" but it was Caspar Weinberger who originally came up with the guidelines of using the U.S. military during the Reagan administration based upon the mistakes and lessons learned from the Vietnam War.

    The Weinberger Doctrine:

    1.The United States should not commit forces to combat unless the vital national interests of the United States or its allies are involved.
    2.U.S. troops should only be committed wholeheartedly and with the clear intention of winning. Otherwise, troops should not be committed.
    3.U.S. combat troops should be committed only with clearly defined political and military objectives and with the capacity to accomplish those objectives.
    4.The relationship between the objectives and the size and composition of the forces committed should be continually reassessed and adjusted if necessary.
    5.U.S. troops should not be committed to battle without a "reasonable assurance" of the support of U.S. public opinion and Congress.
    6.The commitment of U.S. troops should be considered only as a last resort.
    If only we had another Cas in the Pentagon. Wait... isn't that a combination of the Constitution, basic military tactics, and common sense? No wonder that isn't our current policy, nor has it been since, well, since Cas was SecDef; one exception - GHWB who got me the hell out of Somalia and stopped GW-I when the actual mandate was accomplished rather than rolling to and through Baghdad.

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    Re: Who Supported Military Intervention in Libya? (POLL)

    Dang, this is a tight poll.

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    Re: Who Supported Military Intervention in Libya? (POLL)

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Ummm, having trouble with the quote function, eh?


    I so bad...

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    Re: Who Supported Military Intervention in Libya? (POLL)

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Dang, this is a tight poll.
    I could make a number of off color comments about that statement, but I defer to others.

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    Re: Who Supported Military Intervention in Libya? (POLL)

    Supported. Ousting Gaddafi was a worthwhile goal, and doing so without a life lost can only be considered a resounding success. The current Libyan leadership is also quite preferable to the previous regime and many others in the region.

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    Re: Who Supported Military Intervention in Libya? (POLL)

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I didn't actually support involvement in Libya, wasn't at all happy about it. However, I accepted it because Spain, the UK and France, all of whom were our allies and all of whom had strategic national interests in Libya, spearheaded the action and the US honored the request of our allies to assist and support them.


    The invasion of Iraq, however, pissed me off no end, and I'll never forgive Bush, et al, for preemptively invading a country that had not and could not do our nation any harm.
    Wait a minute. What harm was Libya going to do to the U.S.?

    And our allies were with us in the invasion of Iraq. We had more partners in Iraq than we did in Libya.

    The only thing that seems to change between the two wars (under the issues you have highlighted) is who happened to be President at the time.

    Methinks you may want to think through your approach here a bit more thoroughly...

    As for Syria, I'm absolutely opposed to our unilateral intervention. We have no allied support
    ....Except for France, Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia, etc, etc, etc....

    You seem to be utilizing a highly selective concept of what qualifies as "allied support".

    it is not in our national interest
    Actually we have huge national interests in Syria. Not only is it Iran's chief ally in the region, but it is responsible for enabling the deaths of thousands of American servicemembers. It's provides aid to Hezbollah and (until recently) al-Qaeda, has WMD production and stockpiles, and has the ability to destabilize a high-impact portion of the globe. It also serves as Iran's early-warning network and second-strike capability in the event of a move against a nuclear program. Geography and politics both require that we maintain our interests in the middle east, and Syria is a big piece of that.

    and the repercussions could be significant.
    Yup. Unfortunately, doing nothing will produce significant repercussions as well. As Christopher Hitchens put it to well: "Nonintervention does not mean that nothing happens. It means that something else happens."

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    Re: Who Supported Military Intervention in Libya? (POLL)

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    If only we had another Cas in the Pentagon. Wait... isn't that a combination of the Constitution, basic military tactics, and common sense? No wonder that isn't our current policy, nor has it been since, well, since Cas was SecDef; one exception - GHWB who got me the hell out of Somalia and stopped GW-I when the actual mandate was accomplished rather than rolling to and through Baghdad.
    Casp was an excellent Sec. of Def.

    President Reagan had a very professional and competent administration. Reagan surrounded himself with individuals who weren't yes men. I think that's one of the secrets of having a proficient and competent White House administration. Look at Clinton's White House, it was compared to National Lampoons "Animal House." Or look at the Obama White House, Obama surrounded himself with nothing but incompetent, second rate people who are mostly yes men.

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