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    re: Are GMOs good or bad [W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    And the synthetic insulins are label SYNTHETIC insulin. Imagine that.
    Doesn't change that it is produced by genetically modified bacteria. It isn't like people have any choice in insulin. Quite a few of our pain medicines are also synthetic.

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    re: Are GMOs good or bad [W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Being the tomato expert, you should know that most tomatoes are picked green and gassed to turn them red, regardless of what type of seed they are grown from. There is plenty of information about what is or isn't GMO in the web. If it contains corn, a corn product, or is cooked in corn oil it is genetically modified. If you are so into it for health reasons, you should already know this. The same for alfalfa, the same for sugar beets, the same for squash. The information that you allege is being hidden from consumers is readily available via google.
    Grainger county tomatoes aren't gassed. And they disappear from local stores and farmer's markets at an astounding rate because they aren't picked green, gassed, given a coating for shine, sprayed with wax. Unfortunately, they do use round up for weed control, but the tomatos themselves are washed before going to the store. Try them some time, and you'll realize the difference immediately.

    I have some of the information already, there are sites that list natural and GMO information for produce, but they aren't easy to find, and why should it be necessary to hunt for information, especially when prepared foods don't list 'Red Beauty' tomatoes, just tomato.... and you don't know what kind.
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    re: Are GMOs good or bad [W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    They only difference between a hybrid and a GMO is that one occurs in nature and one occurs in a lab, but the one that occurs in the lab is just a faster version of what occurs in nature. If you don't want GMO's, grow your own. Otherwise there is no reason to scare the hell out of people for no reason whatsoever.
    Not so. You can neither "mate" (crossbreed?) a plant with an animal in nature nor can you mate a rabbit and a fox.


    What do you call a cross between a Mexican and an octopus?

    I don't know either, but I'll bet that sucker could sure pick some lettuce.
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    re: Are GMOs good or bad [W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    If they are unknown, then how can you support that they are inferior?
    Simple: man cannot outsmart nature. Remember Frankenstein?

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    re: Are GMOs good or bad [W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Doesn't change that it is produced by genetically modified bacteria. It isn't like people have any choice in insulin. Quite a few of our pain medicines are also synthetic.
    Actually, they do have a choice. Non-synthetics are still available, and many people who are on limited budgets can get it rather inexpensively compared to the synthetics.
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    re: Are GMOs good or bad [W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    Grainger county tomatoes aren't gassed. And they disappear from local stores and farmer's markets at an astounding rate because they aren't picked green, gassed, given a coating for shine, sprayed with wax. Unfortunately, they do use round up for weed control, but the tomatos themselves are washed before going to the store. Try them some time, and you'll realize the difference immediately.

    I have some of the information already, there are sites that list natural and GMO information for produce, but they aren't easy to find, and why should it be necessary to hunt for information, especially when prepared foods don't list 'Red Beauty' tomatoes, just tomato.... and you don't know what kind.
    Why would I? Up until a few weeks ago I could walk into my back yard and pick my own.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Not so. You can neither "mate" (crossbreed?) a plant with an animal in nature nor can you mate a rabbit and a fox.
    Then you would have to admit that GMO's pose no danger as the plant could not affect you when you ate it and therefore be the cause of your cancer, diabetes, or anything else that is being claimed about them.

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    Are GMOs good or bad

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Since this is an issue in my state right now. I would like to see what the good people of the forums think about this. Do you think GMO foods are good or bad for the human population?

    Genetically modified organism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Let's first distinguish between the potentials of GMO foods and the actuality of GMO foods.

    The promise of GMO foods was, for example, a potato that would grow twice as large in half the time in near desert conditions. This could be a boon to humanity, and could ensure that there is food for all.

    However, in practice GMO foods are primarily for profit protection and cornering the market on food.

    - terminator seeds are the main modification; the plants created by the seeds are themselves sterile meaning you gotta buy seeds each year. Genetic sterility, hopefully it doesn't interfere with the sterility of the consumer.

    - "roundup ready" drinks pesticides and herbicides, in theory allows for less needed chemicals... In practice, farmers are more liberal with chemical usage because it won't damage the desired plants.

    - BT; mainly corn... BT is a fungus that is a safe natural pesticide... However, when the pesticide is produced b the plant that raises a potential concern.

    Are they safe??

    Well, Monsanto (the primary GMO food producer) has a policy for the past 10 years banning GMO foods from the cafeterias. In other words, the scientists making this product refuse to consume said product... That's all the statement I need.

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    re: Are GMOs good or bad [W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    So you know of every plant that does exist or will ever exist as a result of natural processes?

    GMO's have been studied and approved. That people cannot differentiate between temporal correlation and actual causation is no reason to disrupt the food supply. This isn't a war for health--it is a war against corporate farming. Here is a clue--the insulin used by diabetics is **gasp** genetically modified. Those people clearly would be better off if there were no GMO's
    Well to be honest about the comparison the artificial cross pollinating we do to make the hybrid corn our food chain relies on doesn't use a virus to do the heavy lifting. Roughly 10% of the artificial cross pollinated seed corn for dispersal to farmers doesn't 'take'. You see the rogue plants among the other plants.

    The process of inserting DNA into the host plant uses a specially modified virus- usually a particularly nasty one as they have a high penetration coefficient than 'nicer' viruses. The process is not like human fertilization, no one egg getting the DNA added by hand but a batch process- which has a failure rate just like our artificial cross pollinating.

    What some fear is we will have Ebola in /whole corn/veggies/eggs like we now have salmonella or Ecoli. Inside not on.

    As an aside- cigarettes nicotine and cancer was studied with two very opposing camps thinking they were correct.

    And as a rancher I'd say this isn't a war against corporate farming but a battle to try and keep major corporations like Monsanto from controlling farming through the holding of patents.

    Oh and that whole Ebola thing....

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    re: Are GMOs good or bad [W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Simple: man cannot outsmart nature. Remember Frankenstein?
    yes--he was as fictional as this GMO crop nonsense.

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    re: Are GMOs good or bad [W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    yes--he was as fictional as this GMO crop nonsense.
    Yes, he was. He was a warning about human arrogance.
    Kind of "keep the gun away from your child".

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