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    Re: why do you think MLK was killed ?

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    That is why I wonder about the details of his (MLK) position. A clearly intelligent man, I doubt that he would prefer equal representation in the workplace without equal effort. It seems to me he would expect all things to be equal if equal effort were exerted. He was speaking against discrimination, not position without effort. I also think he was talking to a community who WANTED to be equal, who understood and respected the context of his Dream speech, not those who expend little or no effort and expect a handout. He encouraged his audience to be the best they could be at whatever they did, not to sit at home, abandon their children and expect a check.
    all I can go on is what he said. and what he said was if a community was 30% black, then 30% of all jobs of all levels should be filled by blacks.
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    Re: why do you think MLK was killed ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Yes, actually. You are still denying it.

    Yes, that you are in denial.

    Why are you scratching at your wounds?

    I think you've proven enough already.

    Do you have anything of substance to comment on regarding the topic of the thread?

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    Re: why do you think MLK was killed ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    MLK, who I greatly admire, did not stand for everything I would have stood for but its not probable you're going to agree with everything someone you admire advanced. I can't say enough of my appreciation for MLK for doing more to make America a place where blacks have unlimited potential to pursue their dreams. Blacks like me get to experience the American dream because of his leadership and sacrifice before I was even born. At the same time I'm not on board with the anti-poverty programs he also help champion. I agree poverty was and continue to be a serious problem and blacks were disproportionately affected due to centuries of discrimination but incentivizing the break up of black families by making "No Dad Allowed In the Home" a condition of eligibility for children to get something to eat was and continues to be one of the most destructive policies the government has ever advanced. What we should have incentivized was hard work, education, vocational training, entrepreneurship, responsibility and good citizenship.
    I agree that most current poverty programs will ensure only that folks are more comfortable poverty by simply rewarding failure. The notion that it somehow helps children to support morons producing them in order to "qualify" for gov't assistance makes no sense. The role of the urban male, as provider, has been replaced with General Welfare ruining the family/community structure in the process. Having no real place (role?) in the traditional family, these males then form gangs to earn respect and income serving only as breeding stock for the welfare queens, supported by the state, between their brief periods of incarceration. Oddly this behavior seems to exist mainly in urban/suburban areas, out here in the sticks (rural America) the ability to form gangs is limitted and men (even the young ones) are still expected to behave and work.
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    Re: why do you think MLK was killed ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Why are you scratching at your wounds?

    I think you've proven enough already.

    Do you have anything of substance to comment on regarding the topic of the thread?
    I am free to pick what I want to respond to, if I see a poster trying to re-write history by claiming that there were not large portions of the US population against equal rights for blacks, then I will call them on it.

    I can understand why you need to change the topic.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: why do you think MLK was killed ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I am free to pick what I want to respond to, if I see a poster trying to re-write history by claiming that there were not large portions of the US population against equal rights for blacks, then I will call them on it.

    I can understand why you need to change the topic.

    What you wrote can't possibly be true. You haven't written a single word taking yourself to task.

    The irrefutable absolute truth, is that only a small percentage of whites living in the United States were against equality with Blacks.

    You have proven that to be true with the data you provided.

    Again, thanks for the effort.

    Any attempt to suggest otherwise only serves to sever oneself from reality that much further, and further establish a bias that is usually labeled quite harshly.

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    Re: why do you think MLK was killed ?

    In the final analysis, dude smelled of eggs and milk, so **** him.

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    Re: why do you think MLK was killed ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    What you wrote can't possibly be true. You haven't written a single word taking yourself to task.
    Why would I take myself to task, I am not the one denying the level of racism existing in the US in the 1960's.

    The irrefutable absolute truth, is that only a small percentage of whites living in the United States were against equality with Blacks.
    Wash rinse repeat.Even Oscar was able to recognize that I disproved your claim:
    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    all you showed that was a "large portion" of the people who responded to the poll did not support equal rights back in the 60s
    The question is.....why can't you?
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: why do you think MLK was killed ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Why would I take myself to task, I am not the one denying the level of racism existing in the US in the 1960's.

    Wash rinse repeat.

    Even Oscar was able to recognize that I disproved your claim:


    The question is.....why can't you?

    I'm afraid I can't help you push your narrative. I'll let you do that all yourself.

    You are certainly entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

    Sorry, but you've landed woefully short of the target.

    As usual.


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    Re: why do you think MLK was killed ?

    It was, and still is, and will always be a cover up. Those that know the truth, have gone to their graves with the truth. My opinion!


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    Re: why do you think MLK was killed ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I agree that most current poverty programs will ensure only that folks are more comfortable poverty by simply rewarding failure. The notion that it somehow helps children to support morons producing them in order to "qualify" for gov't assistance makes no sense. The role of the urban male, as provider, has been replaced with General Welfare ruining the family/community structure in the process. Having no real place (role?) in the traditional family, these males then form gangs to earn respect and income serving only as breeding stock for the welfare queens, supported by the state, between their brief periods of incarceration. Oddly this behavior seems to exist mainly in urban/suburban areas, out here in the sticks (rural America) the ability to form gangs is limitted and men (even the young ones) are still expected to behave and work.
    I agree but I won't vilify the victims by insinuating they are the ones who brought this on themselves. The facts are in the 1960s and 70s there were real disadvantages to being a minority and faced with being derived of adequate educational opportunities, career experience from being allowed to move up te ranks, etc., I can understand the appeal the welfare programs could have had. The problems more than anything else are the conditions they required that in effect changed the culture of minority families by emasculating and driving fathers out of the family to where now absentee fathers is normal. Secondly, there seems to have been no comprehensive plan to get disadvantaged Americans caught up economically to where they would eventually graduate out but it seems the whole idea was to create a permanantly dependent class. So drive fathers out of the family and get people on welfare for their whole lives and then pass it down to subsequent generations.

    Welfare needs to be a temporary safety net or if conditions exists where the circumstances that led to poverty in some cases are themselves permanant then a comprehensive approach needs to be applied that includes education, vocational training, citenzenship, household budgeting, basic home maintance, auto care, child rearing and yes promotes a 2 parent commitment for life as the ideal, nutrition, etc. I'm thinking 4 to 5 years and every welfare recipient should be graduated out of dependency.
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