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Thread: Military Action in Syria vs. Iraq

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    Military Action in Syria vs. Iraq

    Is it hypocritical for Americans who supported Bush II's invasion of Iraq to oppose military action against Syria?
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    Re: Military Action in Syria vs. Iraq

    Lean no. While much of the hysteria is similar - "proof positive" of WMDs - my objection to action in Syria is the total lack of leadership in the Obama administration. At least Bush had clearly stated objectives and a strategy for achieving them. It was the "nation building" part that broke down, and it seems to be an intractable problem in the ME. I think the UN should seriously consider returning Syria, Lebanon and Iraq to the Turks. And then look the other way for a few years until the Turks get the place organized.
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    Re: Military Action in Syria vs. Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Is it hypocritical for Americans who supported Bush II's invasion of Iraq to oppose military action against Syria?
    I say no.Saddam used WMDs at least 16-20 times. According to some sources Saddam murdered at least a million of his own people. Even before Bush was in office practically everybody was claiming Saddam had WMDs. Saddam made everyone think he still had WMDs. Saddam was like a repeat convicted murderer who made everyone think he murdered another person.Saddam overall was a inhuman monster. Plus 9-11 was still fresh in everyone's minds and we didn't want another middle easterner to be a threat to us.
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    Re: Military Action in Syria vs. Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Lean no. While much of the hysteria is similar - "proof positive" of WMDs - my objection to action in Syria is the total lack of leadership in the Obama administration. At least Bush had clearly stated objectives and a strategy for achieving them.
    Really? Is that why we've been there for over a decade? Bush nor Obama have a plan here other than to entrench us in perpetual warfare.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Military Action in Syria vs. Iraq

    A lot of time has passed since we got into Iraq. People can change their mind and I wouldn't call that hypocrisy.

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    Re: Military Action in Syria vs. Iraq

    Live and learn. I have.
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    Re: Military Action in Syria vs. Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I say no.Saddam used WMDs at least 16-20 times. According to some sources Saddam murdered at least a million of his own people. Even before Bush was in office practically everybody was claiming Saddam had WMDs. Saddam made everyone think he still had WMDs. Saddam was like a repeat convicted murderer who made everyone think he murdered another person.Saddam overall was a inhuman monster. Plus 9-11 was still fresh in everyone's minds and we didn't want another middle easterner to be a threat to us.
    Those WMD's are now in Syria apparently.
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    Re: Military Action in Syria vs. Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Those WMD's are now in Syria apparently.
    So says supposition and assumption.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Military Action in Syria vs. Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Is it hypocritical for Americans who supported Bush II's invasion of Iraq to oppose military action against Syria?
    Yes, it is hypocrisy. In both cases we allowed and even supported the local tyrant until they got in the way of our oil. In Iraq's case Sodom tried to base his oil on the Euro instead of the US Dollar. In Syria's case it's a pipeline we want put through there to drastically improve shipping in a number of ways, and the stability of the oil fields in general is now at risk. In both cases we couldn't act until something major occurred. In both cases what occurred was the use of a WMD.

    Syria is a war for oil, make no mistake about that. Going to war over energy is a right and good thing.

    What is objectionable is not that the President lies, but that We The People force him to have to lie. He cannot tell us the truth because we wouldn't give him political support if he did.

    We are in the wrong for not supporting non-defensive warfare for oil, not the President for lying to us about it.

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    Re: Military Action in Syria vs. Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Is it hypocritical for Americans who supported Bush II's invasion of Iraq to oppose military action against Syria?
    If you supported war in Iraq, to not be hypocritical you should support action in Syria as well. However, its not hypocritical to be against the invasion of Iraq while still supporting action in Syria because one is a more critical situation.

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