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So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

How is "Smart Power" working out for the United States?

  • Smart Power has made incredible foreign policy gains for us

    Votes: 1 4.8%

  • Smart Power helped us "reset" relations with Russia et al.

    Votes: 1 4.8%

  • Smart Power works, but turned out to be Bush Doctrine Lite

    Votes: 2 9.5%

  • We are so screwed that we now lose no matter WHAT we do

    Votes: 17 81.0%
  • Total voters
    21
apdst said:
That's debatable. Obama is educated. Doesn't seem like it's working out good for anyone.
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But, the attack, as here, is on the education. Not his intellect. Not his experience. But that he is educated.
 
Boo Radley said:
But, the attack, as here, is on the education. Not his intellect. Not his experience. But that he is educated.
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His education isn'r serving him well because of his stupidity.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Show me my comment that says or even inferred education is bad
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When the refrain is constant that those educated are bad, as it is with far too many, the message is clear: education is bad.
 
you two are killin' me
He's the affirmative action President doncha know?
Didja read Barry's Law Review article? (don't fell bad no one else has either)
why not? I read the one my kid did last year (published on the web long before the NSA thing broke)
dealing with the fact that when you send data through a 3rd party (i.e. gmail) you've lost all expectation of privacy.

No one ever recalls seeing Barry Soetoro at Columbia including law professors and students from his supposed
graduating class, Guess the choon gang knew where ol Barry was then eh?

Are his college transcripts sealed because he was an Indonesian foreign exchange student or
because his grades made GW look like a rocket scientist? (both most likely).

so yeah just perhaps Barry is the least qualified person in any room he walks into
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Academics should stay in the class room or the teachers lobby and discuss theory, they just don't have what it takes to actually govern. The real world is far more complex and messy than the ivory tower.
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You inferred it here. You clearly infer it. This not about the president, but education.
 
Boo Radley said:
You inferred it here. You clearly infer it. This not about the president, but education.
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An academic is a type of person. He or she has no real world experience and only has knowledge that they were spoon fed by other academics. This is not anti education it is anti having nothing in your resume except education, see the difference now?
 
sawyerloggingon said:
An academic is a type of person. He or she has no real world experience and only has knowledge that they were spoon fed by other academics. This is not anti education it is anti having nothing in your resume except education, see the difference now?
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Does that mean average Joe can shut the hell up as well? I would love that.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
An academic is a type of person. He or she has no real world experience and only has knowledge that they were spoon fed by other academics. This is not anti education it is anti having nothing in your resume except education, see the difference now?
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An academic is some who has been educated. Using this terminology is anti-education. Whether you mean it to be or not, this rhetoric has led to the anti-education mood in the country. You're part of the problem when you talk this way.
 
Fiddytree said:
Does that mean average Joe can shut the hell up as well? I would love that.
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The average Joe has a wide range of education and experience and why you would want to shut them up is beyond me. They are who and what made this country great, they are the doer's not academics sitting around the faculty lounge theorizing.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
The average Joe has a wide range of education and experience and why you would want to shut them up is beyond me. They are who and what made this country great, they are the doer's not academics sitting around the faculty lounge theorizing.
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If the educated, well-meaning, but hopelessly naive academic or professional ought not be allowed to talk, then the average know-nothing should shut their traps.
 
Boo Radley said:
An academic is some who has been educated. Using this terminology is anti-education. Whether you mean it to be or not, this rhetoric has led to the anti-education mood in the country. You're part of the problem when you talk this way.
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Academics are the problem, I am the solution. Academics tend to be left wing elitist who have never done an honest days work in their life, never had to show a profit and have no concept of the real world outside their ivory tower. They fill the minds of our youth with socialist anti America dogma and are more about indoctrination than education.
 
Fiddytree said:
If the educated, well-meaning, but hopelessly naive academic or professional ought not be allowed to talk, then the average know-nothing should shut their traps.
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I never said academics should not be allowed to talk so don't try to drag me down to your level with lies about me.
 
Fiddytree said:
If the educated, well-meaning, but hopelessly naive academic or professional ought not be allowed to talk, then the average know-nothing should shut their traps.
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They all should be allowed to express their opinion on a matter, yet none should carry more weight based on credentials and any should be expected to back up their opinon with evidence. As my evidence, I will offer your post. ;)
 
Joe the plumber could do a better job than the community organizer and the disbarred first lady
 
sawyerloggingon said:
I never said academics should not be allowed to talk so don't try to drag me down to your level with lies about me.
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Oh so that's why you frequently suggest that the academic is a twit (while the average person is experienced, thoughtful and capable), that average person could do a better job than the academic and that the academic shouldn't govern. :roll:
 
Fiddytree said:
Oh so that's why you frequently suggest that the academic is a twit (while the average person is experienced, thoughtful and capable), that average person could do a better job than the academic and that the academic shouldn't govern. :roll:
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Never used the word "twit" although I wouldn't argue the point. What I suggest is that academics should stay in academia and not suddenly venture out into the real world and become something like president where they can test out their class room theories and make all of us their guinea pigs.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Never used the word "twit" although I wouldn't argue the point. What I suggest is that academics should stay in academia and not suddenly venture out into the real world and become something like president where they can test out their class room theories and make all of us their guinea pigs.
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But could/should the average person extend him or herself into politics in order to implement their "tried and true" wisdom?
 
Fiddytree said:
But could/should the average person extend him or herself into politics in order to implement their "tried and true" wisdom?
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Absolutely. The average American with a job or a business a mortgage, kids and a thing called common sense is head and shoulders above some "twit" as you put it that has led a sheltered life in academia enjoying their tenure.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Absolutely. The average American with a job or a business a mortgage, kids and a thing called common sense is head and shoulders above some "twit" as you put it that has led a sheltered life in academia enjoying their tenure.
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Ah, so the average person, by virtue of being an average person, is somehow granted an extraordinary level of experience, insight, and skill, while the academic (who frequently does participate in community outreach and serve as government policy advisers), is not. The academic has no job, no mortgage, or kids, or any semblance of common sense. But somehow, despite the experience and insight, the academic is comparatively useless.

Mate, you have bought into some of the worst excesses of populist rhetoric possible.
 
Fiddytree said:
Ah, so the average person, by virtue of being an average person, is somehow granted an extraordinary level of experience, insight, and skill, while the academic (who frequently does participate in community outreach and serve as government policy advisers), is not. The academic has no job, no mortgage, or kids, or any semblance of common sense. But somehow, despite the experience and insight, the academic is comparatively useless.

Mate, you have bought into some of the worst excesses of populist rhetoric possible.
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The academic to put it simply is lopsided, you need real world experience to understand the real world. Learning from a book is great and I myself am an avid reader but if that is the extent of your education you are like a top heavy boat and the first storm will capsize you. Witness Obama and Syria, I rest my case.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
The academic to put it simply is lopsided, you need real world experience to understand the real world. Learning from a book is great and I myself am an avid reader but if that is the extent of your education you are like a top heavy boat and the first storm will capsize you. Witness Obama and Syria, I rest my case.
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What sort of real-world experience does the average person have on most policy matters, Sawyer, I mean, honestly.
 
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