View Poll Results: How is "Smart Power" working out for the United States?

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  • Smart Power has made incredible foreign policy gains for us

    1 4.17%
  • Smart Power helped us "reset" relations with Russia et al.

    2 8.33%
  • Smart Power works, but turned out to be Bush Doctrine Lite

    2 8.33%
  • We are so screwed that we now lose no matter WHAT we do

    19 79.17%
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Thread: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Apparently it did not translate well.
    Yep. The part about not drawing the red line and the world doing that must have really meant, "this is all YOUR fault". You have a point. It's pretty dull as points go. I wouldn't invest a lot of time sharpening it.

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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Yep. The part about not drawing the red line and the world doing that must have really meant, "this is all YOUR fault". You have a point. It's pretty dull as points go. I wouldn't invest a lot of time sharpening it.
    Wow.

    You just admitted that is how you interpreted "The world drew the line".

    Let me help you, you see in 1993 we and nearly every other country signed on to the latest ban on chem weapons (which goes back to before WWI), so, you see, the line existed for a long time.
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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Wow.

    You just admitted that is how you interpreted "The world drew the line".

    Let me help you, you see in 1993 we and nearly every other country signed on to the latest ban on chem weapons (which goes back to before WWI), so, you see, the line existed for a long time.
    The existence of a ban which is endorsed by most countries does not include a provision demanding military action against the offender. You can play around with the words all you wish, if it makes you feel the smart power coursing through your veins. The rest of the world apparently doesn't share Obama's view that an attack is necessarily the best way to go. There are other options, some of which Obama dithered away a few years back. That makes his prescription now viewed through a skeptical lens. I guess Hillary took the damn "Reset" button with her when she left. Typical.

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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Wow.

    You just admitted that is how you interpreted "The world drew the line".

    Let me help you, you see in 1993 we and nearly every other country signed on to the latest ban on chem weapons (which goes back to before WWI), so, you see, the line existed for a long time.
    Did Syria sign that treaty/ban?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Obama dithered away a few years back
    hah yeah we've been on the wrong side of the supposed Arab spring from the start!
    We grown ups knew how this would turn out from the beginning.
    The 'smart power' folks still haven't the vaguest clue about what is going on.

    wanna take bets on what lies just up ahead round the next bend?

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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Did Syria sign that treaty/ban?
    Wonderful, since they did not, they are entitled to use them.

    Next up, Iran & NK are not part of START I or II.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Wonderful, since they did not, they are entitled to use them.

    Next up, Iran & NK are not part of START I or II.
    I'm more in favor in bombing the **** out of Iran nuclear facilities than spanking Syria for their alleged transgression...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    The existence of a ban which is endorsed by most countries does not include a provision demanding military action against the offender. You can play around with the words all you wish, if it makes you feel the smart power coursing through your veins. The rest of the world apparently doesn't share Obama's view that an attack is necessarily the best way to go. There are other options, some of which Obama dithered away a few years back. That makes his prescription now viewed through a skeptical lens. I guess Hillary took the damn "Reset" button with her when she left. Typical.
    No, typical is making a damned if you don't, damned if you do argument. It is irrational and hypocritical.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I'm more in favor in bombing the **** out of Iran nuclear facilities than spanking Syria for their alleged transgression...
    Well you have a line for nukes....but chemical weapons....meh...not so much.

    So principled.

    OF course, you bypassed your previous "treaty" argument.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Well you have a line for nukes....but chemical weapons....meh...not so much.

    So principled.
    Not really, Iran is the country financing and actively supporting everything Syria is doing...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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