View Poll Results: How is "Smart Power" working out for the United States?

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  • Smart Power has made incredible foreign policy gains for us

    1 4.17%
  • Smart Power helped us "reset" relations with Russia et al.

    2 8.33%
  • Smart Power works, but turned out to be Bush Doctrine Lite

    2 8.33%
  • We are so screwed that we now lose no matter WHAT we do

    19 79.17%
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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    See this is the thing about formal education taught by these liberal profs. As well rounded as you are you have bought into their elitist mindset that anyone who thinks ivory tower academics are not superior human beings must hate education. This is the downside of pursuing a higher education as taught in most of our universities, you get as much indoctrination as education or maybe even more.
    In this situation, I see little wrong being an elitist to anti-intellectuals.
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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'll repeat this for you:

    You know that's bs. Complete bs. Take me. I've drove truck, served in the military, worked retail, waited tables, cooked, partnered in an antique shop, and worked construction. What in that is not an honest days work?

    And I'm not alone.

    You also have no respect for young people who work jobs, have families, and try to balance both with getting an education. You also think they don't have their own minds. How arrogant of you.

    Like I said, the stuff you spew is the problem. Not education.
    I think I see the problem here. You desperately want to be labeled as an academic so when I say you are not one you get offended. The sad truth is these real academics will never accept you into their elitist club no matter how hard you try. To them you will always just be a truck driver with an education.

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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    In this situation, I see little wrong being an elitist to anti-intellectuals.
    Define intellectual, so far we have been concentrating on the term "academic".

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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Define intellectual, so far we have been concentrating on the term "academic".
    The term is under dispute. There are a couple of broad-based definitions that are fairly common.

    1) A person who lives by the creation and dissemination of ideas

    2) A person who is perhaps a professional in one area, but feels they can take their skill set and apply it to subject matters outside their specialty. There is often a moral certitude that imbues them.
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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    The term is under dispute. There are a couple of broad-based definitions that are fairly common.

    1) A person who lives by the creation and dissemination of ideas

    2) A person who is perhaps a professional in one area, but feels they can take their skill set and apply it to subject matters outside their specialty. There is often a moral certitude that imbues them.
    Sounds better than an academic and the fact that they are a professional in one area means they put their intellect to work and are people that do, not people that hypothesize. They have my vote as they are defined by you.

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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I think I see the problem here. You desperately want to be labeled as an academic so when I say you are not one you get offended. The sad truth is these real academics will never accept you into their elitist club no matter how hard you try. To them you will always just be a truck driver with an education.
    Again you are wrong. What you're doing is attacking education. If you go back and look at definition of an academic (a noun) it is one who teaches. You try to hide your contempt of learning by fudging the definition something most don't meet.

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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Sounds better than an academic and the fact that they are a professional in one area means they put their intellect to work and are people that do, not people that hypothesize. They have my vote as they are defined by you.
    I don't know how you think it is better than an academic who is a specialist in a field and tries to have their ideas tested and applied. The negative stereotype of the intellectual is one who is outside their comfort zone, but by sheer virtue of being known in one field (with Noam Chomsky it is linguistics) believes it is thus possible for them to influence the elite and the popular conception of another area (in Noam's case it is frequently foreign policy), despite not having any experience whatsoever and proposing lofty ideas with no grounding in reality.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    "lofty ideals with no grounding in reality" now there's a recipe for disaster
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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    That's what we were promised, right? Ineffectual bumbling around the Middle East was done because the smart people were in charge. The world wasn't a mess of incompatible national interests, difficult trade-offs, no-win situations, and irreconcilable differences, but merely a rubix cube, waiting for the Smartest President Ever to come in and Be Wonderful Enough To Solve It. Remember?


    So. How's that working out?
    Education is good, Smart is better, Leadership is best.

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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    "lofty ideals with no grounding in reality" now there's a recipe for disaster
    It's based on a stereotype of an intellectual. I don't always buy into it, but I don't agree with Noam's ideas either.

    That being said, I have to say I have heard a lot of the same qualities from the average citizen, on a variety of issues. One has academic credentials, the other does not, but they both can sound the same.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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