View Poll Results: How is "Smart Power" working out for the United States?

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  • Smart Power has made incredible foreign policy gains for us

    1 4.17%
  • Smart Power helped us "reset" relations with Russia et al.

    2 8.33%
  • Smart Power works, but turned out to be Bush Doctrine Lite

    2 8.33%
  • We are so screwed that we now lose no matter WHAT we do

    19 79.17%
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Thread: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Never used the word "twit" although I wouldn't argue the point. What I suggest is that academics should stay in academia and not suddenly venture out into the real world and become something like president where they can test out their class room theories and make all of us their guinea pigs.
    But could/should the average person extend him or herself into politics in order to implement their "tried and true" wisdom?
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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    But could/should the average person extend him or herself into politics in order to implement their "tried and true" wisdom?
    Absolutely. The average American with a job or a business a mortgage, kids and a thing called common sense is head and shoulders above some "twit" as you put it that has led a sheltered life in academia enjoying their tenure.

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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Absolutely. The average American with a job or a business a mortgage, kids and a thing called common sense is head and shoulders above some "twit" as you put it that has led a sheltered life in academia enjoying their tenure.
    Ah, so the average person, by virtue of being an average person, is somehow granted an extraordinary level of experience, insight, and skill, while the academic (who frequently does participate in community outreach and serve as government policy advisers), is not. The academic has no job, no mortgage, or kids, or any semblance of common sense. But somehow, despite the experience and insight, the academic is comparatively useless.

    Mate, you have bought into some of the worst excesses of populist rhetoric possible.
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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Ah, so the average person, by virtue of being an average person, is somehow granted an extraordinary level of experience, insight, and skill, while the academic (who frequently does participate in community outreach and serve as government policy advisers), is not. The academic has no job, no mortgage, or kids, or any semblance of common sense. But somehow, despite the experience and insight, the academic is comparatively useless.

    Mate, you have bought into some of the worst excesses of populist rhetoric possible.
    The academic to put it simply is lopsided, you need real world experience to understand the real world. Learning from a book is great and I myself am an avid reader but if that is the extent of your education you are like a top heavy boat and the first storm will capsize you. Witness Obama and Syria, I rest my case.

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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The academic to put it simply is lopsided, you need real world experience to understand the real world. Learning from a book is great and I myself am an avid reader but if that is the extent of your education you are like a top heavy boat and the first storm will capsize you. Witness Obama and Syria, I rest my case.
    What sort of real-world experience does the average person have on most policy matters, Sawyer, I mean, honestly.
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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    common sense has no place on the world leadership stage, anyone that is paying attention gets that

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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    What sort of real-world experience does the average person have on most policy matters, Sawyer, I mean, honestly.
    Real life teaches you how to think on your feet and react to the unexpected and unforeseen. Academics sit around theorizing and that prepares them for nothing. Take one man that has never driven a car and teach him in the classroom how to react when a car starts to spin out on ice. Take another man who drives a car regularly on icy roads and who's instincts kick in as his car starts to spin out. Now put them on an ice road and tell them to accelerate until the rear end starts coming around, which one is more likely to be upside down in a ditch? The academic will understand all the physics involved and what in theory to do but he will end up spinning down the road out of control.

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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Real life teaches you how to think on your feet and react to the unexpected and unforeseen.
    Are you trying to convince me academics aren't alive?

    Academics sit around theorizing and that prepares them for nothing.
    And the average person spouts off any chance they get as well. Congratulations.

    Take one man that has never driven a car and teach him in the classroom how to react when a car starts to spin out on ice. Take another man who drives a car regularly on icy roads and who's instincts kick in as his car starts to spin out. Now put them on an ice road and tell them to accelerate until the rear end starts coming around, which one is more likely to be upside down in a ditch? The academic will understand all the physics involved and what in theory to do but he will end up in a ditch.
    I know I am not supposed to take this literally, but this is ridiculous. Somehow the average person knows how to drive, but the academic can't. Do you honestly believe this idiotic nonsense?
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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Are you trying to convince me academics aren't alive?



    And the average person spouts off any chance they get as well. Congratulations.



    I know I am not supposed to take this literally, but this is ridiculous. Somehow the average person knows how to drive, but the academic can't. Do you honestly believe this idiotic nonsense?
    Well I WAS enjoying our conversation but as so often happens when I try to have a polite respectful debate in here it turns into this.

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    Re: So how is that "Smart Power" working out?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Well I WAS enjoying our conversation but as so often happens when I try to have a polite respectful debate in here it turns into this.
    Well, sawyer, if you think being polite means telling people that they don't live in the real world, but you do, based on almost nothing, then yes, it won't be polite on the other end.
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