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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    We tried. He spent it on genocide, institutional rape and a fake WMD program.
    Well probably should have had a better negotiator. Abdication wouldn't have allowed him to do so. But as I said that's neither here nor there. We've spent trillions on a foreign, imperial, occupation war that has not panned out any success in the over 10 years we've been waging it. And your plan is to do it all over again. It's absurd.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well probably should have had a better negotiator.
    You're right, it couldn't be the hostage-taker's fault.

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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You're right, it couldn't be the hostage-taker's fault.
    Again neither here nor there. We've spent trillions on a foreign, imperial, occupation war that has not panned out any success in the over 10 years we've been waging it. And your plan is to do it all over again. It's absurd.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Again neither here nor there.
    You're making that argument.

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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You're making that argument.
    No, I'm making the argument that your "kill them all and let god sort them out" solution hasn't worked and thus engaging in it again is absurd.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, I'm making the argument that your "kill them all and let god sort them out" solution hasn't worked and thus engaging in it again is absurd.
    You're operating from an hysterical premise. Tell us, what are your true fears regarding Syria.

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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You're operating from an hysterical premise. Tell us, what are your true fears regarding Syria.
    Getting involved in another 10+ year occupation costing thousands of American lives, trillions of dollars, and hundreds of thousands of lives of civilians and other people of the area.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Oh me oh my, ...

    The gymnastics you kids go through to look yourselves in the mirrors...

    there is nothing outside the text...

    Nuance schmuance...
    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    There is nothing to interpret. He said HE did not put down a red line. A year ago, he did. Thus, he lied.

    It must be so frustrating for modern day politicians, that whole video tape thing.
    If you can actually look at the transcripts side by side and fail to see the reference to international law and precedent as reasoning for his red line statement, I really don't know what to tell ya. I'll give you both some credit and assume you're being purposefully obtuse, rather than plain ole' dense.

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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Getting involved in another 10+ year occupation costing thousands of American lives, trillions of dollars, and hundreds of thousands of lives of civilians and other people of the area.
    Hundreds of thousands of civilians will continue to die unless we put a stop to chemical genocide.

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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Hundreds of thousands of civilians will continue to die unless we put a stop to chemical genocide.
    So Syria kills them or we do. Doesn't really seem to be netting out anything here.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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