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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    You expectations are straight out of some utopian science fiction...still admirable, in a way. But unless you expect the duumvirate of Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul to assume the sacred Consuls' power any time soon....
    Yes, expecting government to be rational and measured in response is right out of some utopian sci-fi novel. So unreasonable to demand that those wielding my power and my sovereignty do so responsibly. Instead we should all just accept the ineptitude, irrationality, and knee jerk reactions of our politicians and government even when it costs us trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives.

    It never ceases to amaze me how many people are willing to condemn their brothers and sisters to death with little to no consideration, sympathy, or conscientiousness.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yes, expecting government to be rational and measured in response is right out of some utopian sci-fi novel. So unreasonable to demand that those wielding my power and my sovereignty do so responsibly. Instead we should all just accept the ineptitude, irrationality, and knee jerk reactions of our politicians and government even when it costs us trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives.

    It never ceases to amaze me how many people are willing to condemn their brothers and sisters to death with little to no consideration, sympathy, or conscientiousness.

    Oh, please. Why not go whole hog and Truth it. Hysterical peacenikism is not a reasonable stance. It's like you forget that Saddam killed, on average and only counting a few big things, ~50k a year for 20 years. And now people want to let Assad do it, with chemical weapons.

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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Oh, please. Why not go whole hog and Truth it. Hysterical peacenikism is not a reasonable stance. It's like you forget that Saddam killed, on average and only counting a few big things, ~50k a year for 20 years. And now people want to let Assad do it, with chemical weapons.
    When they are fighting and killing each other, they are not so much concerned with the US.
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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    When they are fighting and killing each other, they are not so much concerned with the US.
    Assad's concern for us is no longer an issue; he's made that clear.

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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    I voted "NO" because Obama and his administration have a long track record of being right out liars.

    The only thing Obama hasn't lied about was when he said he's going to change the face of the United States military in the name of diversity. That he's redefining the purpose and character of the American military and those who serve.

    That's one of the few times he didn't lie.

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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Assad's concern for us is no longer an issue; he's made that clear.
    It is irrelevant what he thinks or does not think of us. The fighting in Syria is Syria's problem alone.
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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    The fighting in Syria is Syria's problem alone.
    Ones inability to see globalization does not remove it from existence. There are many kinds of implications for the US.

    Your argument is like some guy hearing his neighbor being beaten brutally by her spouse and saying 'hey, not my business'. Your argument is the guy who lets bad things happen if he can get away. Your argument is selfish, childish, cowardly and ugly. It shows a disregard for mankind and entitlement mindset beyond recognition.

    Chemical genocide is not ok, not while free people have the power to stop it.

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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by Awesome! View Post
    Obama drew the line in the sand because the entire world is with him realizing the level of genius and legendary courage required to stare down Putin and the party of no. From health care to saving refugees, we can be grateful to have such a man who puts the L in leadership, day in and day out, while Putin and Assad run scared, being clearly outwitted
    Actually he put the L in Liar.

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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Well, why don't you ask it a bit more precisely. Do you mean over the history of all these job defeating socialist programs... or just now when this economy has been decimated by these same socialistic ideas put into place and there not really being all that many additional worthwhile jobs to refuse?
    I accept nutter bull**** under protest. But you are asking me to accept bull**** while not even attempting to answer the question.

    Just answer it. The answer ought to be in numerical form.
    How many sane, able-bodied, adult Americans have refused an available job in favor of living off of public assistance?

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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Oh, please. Why not go whole hog and Truth it. Hysterical peacenikism is not a reasonable stance. It's like you forget that Saddam killed, on average and only counting a few big things, ~50k a year for 20 years. And now people want to let Assad do it, with chemical weapons.
    Well we shouldn't have empowered Saddam or sold him those weapons. Though I doubt the 50K/year for 20 years stat. Regardless, how many are dying now? Likely more per day than under Saddam and well more randomly than before. So yay, we spent trillions, killed thousands of our brethren, killed 10's of thousands of theirs including civilians, destabilized Iraq, allowed terrorist activity to explode (sometimes quite literally) in Iraq, increased their probabilities of death, decreased their standard of living; and now we should repeat this in Syria. Huzzah!

    It's like you people don't pay attention.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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