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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    He cited International law in order to convey (or attempt to) the fact that the US is not merely acting on its own discretion and in its own interests, but rather attempting to uphold widely held humanitarian standards. You've misinterpreted the entire dialogue and overreacted as a result.
    Nonsense. That is what the UN, that we fund way too much, is suppsosed to be all about; not allowing the unilateral decision of superpowers to justify thumping on less powerful nations. Note that Saudi Arabia is simply wanting the U.S. to give Syria a smack down and Turkey is bowing out. It is not the job of the USA to play world policeman while actually paying others to do so. If we have that world job then we should get the requisite world paycheck for doing that job, and not pay any "dues" to the UN.
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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    After 9.11

    Can you, honestly, point to any American politician you would expect to keep a cool head "under the circumstances"?

    Look, I am not any kind of Bush apologist. Never voted for the guy, even though Gore and Kerry made the temptation really hard to resist. All I am saying, he comes across as a limited, well-meaning bloke, way over his head. Obama is something else and something worse. If only because he is supposed to "know
    better".
    I'm expecting our politicians to not get us into a 10+ year quagmire full of debt and dead Americans. I don't think that's unreasonable.
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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    You don't have to be an apologist to realize you absolutely butchered your interpretation. Nuance doesn't come easily for some I suppose.
    There is nothing to interpret. He said HE did not put down a red line. A year ago, he did. Thus, he lied.

    It must be so frustrating for modern day politicians, that whole video tape thing.
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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'm expecting our politicians to not get us into a 10+ year quagmire full of debt and dead Americans. I don't think that's unreasonable.
    You expectations are straight out of some utopian science fiction...still admirable, in a way. But unless you expect the duumvirate of Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul to assume the sacred Consuls' power any time soon....

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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Huh? what the hell are you saying. What is the end game? We send in a few tomahawks kill a bunch of civilians for the Assad regime to put on TV. Then Assad continues to gas sunnis. Who are we supporting? al-Qaeda? The world is laughing at us and you think everything is coming up roses. Where do you people come from?
    Well someone apparently didn't wake up today with hope and change? Amazing how the negative party of no and their minions are trying their best to drag Obama down...But we see right through it, and just in a few months Millions of healthcare jobs are going to be created and a world wide coalition of love and justice will sweep Syria into submission, and you will have missed it all blinded in your arrogance.
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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    UNFAIR POLL!!!

    I tend to stop believing every elected official after their first 12 months in office; sometimes earlier depending on how soon I catch them dishonoring their campaign promises.

    So since I'd vote NO anyway...it's unfair! LOL
    Last edited by Captain Adverse; 09-05-13 at 04:12 AM.
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    I dunno, our side doesn't usually get pains in the butt, well, except from the left... and...is your signature statement a trick question?
    No. Not at all. Have an answer?
    How many sane, able-bodied, adult Americans have refused an available job in favor of living off of public assistance?

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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by LoneLaugher View Post
    No. Not at all. Have an answer?
    Yeah, I think the sanity part is the questionable part... I could ask the same thing, in general, about how many sane, able bodied, adult Americans vote Democrat... and so we have our answer, disappointingly, every election. I mean back in the day when they were a party less of international cosmopolitanism and less the party of dependence, they were at least a viable choice to the sane...
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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Yeah, I think the sanity part is the questionable part... I could ask the same thing, in general, about how many sane, able bodied, adult Americans vote Democrat... and so we have our answer, disappointingly, every election. I mean back in the day when they were a party less of international cosmopolitanism and less the party of dependence, they were at least a viable choice to the sane...
    You did not answer the question.
    How many sane, able-bodied, adult Americans have refused an available job in favor of living off of public assistance?

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    Re: Does Anyone Still Believe ANYTHING Obama says?

    Quote Originally Posted by LoneLaugher View Post
    You did not answer the question.
    Well, why don't you ask it a bit more precisely. Do you mean over the history of all these job defeating socialist programs... or just now when this economy has been decimated by these same socialistic ideas put into place and there not really being all that many additional worthwhile jobs to refuse?
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