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Thread: Who dunnit?

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    Re: Who dunnit?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    The idea of Saudi Arabia giving Chemical Weapons to Al Qaeda is.......



    ..... I find it.... how to put this.... "not credible". Yeah, that pretty much covers it.

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    Re: Who dunnit?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Why? The terrorists responsible for 9/11/2001 were from Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Yemen; not one of them was from Afghanistan, Iraq or Pakistan - yet where is the U.S. "war on terror" being waged?. The beauty of supplying or supporting "international terrorists" is that no linkage is likely to be made to any particular "state sponsor" even if it is obvious by the massive cheering in the streets that occurs after a terrorist attack. Who would be blamed for the actions a rebel or "freedom fighter" in Syria that happened to be using a weapon "stolen" from whatever source? Pakistan proudly housed UBL for years yet is said to be a "friendly" (or at least neutral) nation, later locking up the doctor that helped us to kill him and yet still gets our foreign aid. Egypts elected president is ousted by the military yet that was not "officially" a coup. The only given in our foreign policy is its inconsistancy.
    Those kinds of weapons are not so non-attributable as you might imagine. Furthermore, Saudi Arabia is probably more concerned about the Al-Qaeda elements in Syria than we are. When those guys go home after the war is over, they aren't coming home to Newark, after all. Remember that Al-Qaeda hates the Saudi Government more than it hates us (or, at least, did so under UBL). I'm not saying that there aren't duplicitous bastards in their royal family (though at least a couple of them of them have.... disappeared in the last few years), only that it is extremely unlikely that the Saudis would give them chemical weapons - even if they wanted to support the AQ elements, you can't control them, which means you can't control what happens to the weapons, afterwards.

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    Re: Who dunnit?

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    This looks more like the puppet-masters at work.

    Iraq is done. Afghanistan is coming to an end. Without a war, we won't need more extremely expensive weapons. The "job creators" will lose revenue. So, isn't this convenient?

    I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist but there seems to be some odd consistencies between each and every Administration. No matter the party, we always have to have a little warfare going on
    Yeah.... it's almost as if the world wasn't populated by Locke-reading Liberals who were eagerly advancing free trade and Kants' Perpetual Peace... but was instead also largely populated by a bunch of illiberal ideologies, bloody dictators, and cold geopolitical national interests, all often coinciding in mutually incompatible ways.....

    no.... that' couldn't be it....

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    Re: Who dunnit?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Yeah, a lot of the info I've heard corroborates what you're saying. Such as experienced forces launching the chemicals at night to increase the staying power, while novices would launch during the daytime, and also the attacks were all in contested territory.

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    Re: Who dunnit?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Those kinds of weapons are not so non-attributable as you might imagine. Furthermore, Saudi Arabia is probably more concerned about the Al-Qaeda elements in Syria than we are. When those guys go home after the war is over, they aren't coming home to Newark, after all.
    With the current administration's State Department I wouldn't be to sure about that. Anyone who's not white, educated and have a skilled profession seems not to have a problem being issued a visa.

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    Re: Who dunnit?

    I have no idea who did the gas attack.I do not trust our government to tell the truth nor do I trust Assad to tell the truth.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Who dunnit?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I have no idea who did the gas attack.I do not trust our government to tell the truth nor do I trust Assad to tell the truth.
    I think we are in a situation where there are no good guys.

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    Re: Who dunnit?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I think we are in a situation where there are no good guys.
    We are damned if we do and damned if we don't. I would rather be damned and not spend a dime or waste American lives on Syria than be damned and spend a **** load of money and American lives on Syria.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Who dunnit?

    I'm kind of surprised that so far nobody has come up with the most obvious answer.....Bush did it to make Obama look bad and to keep oil prices up for his buddies in the business.

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    Re: Who dunnit?

    I replied that Syria did it, but that's a belief that Syria did it. Not that I know for a fact who did it. Two different things.

    In reality, I don't know who did it, at this time.

    Much is made of Kerry saying he believes with all his heart that Syria did it. That's well and good, but wasn't he fooled by the so-called evidence he saw for Iraq? And he was on the Foreign Relations Committee. And more than belief is needed, when you're talking about killing people and dropping bombs in other countries. What is needed is proof.

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