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Do you carry one in the chamber?[W:26]

Do you carry with one in the chamber?

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Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

Goshin said:
No argument there, really. I've said before: all effective self-defense begins with Awareness and a ready mindset.
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I have a buddy that is usually 100% oblivious to what's going on around him. He definitely needs to carry in order to be safe. :lol:
 
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Tucker Case said:
I have a buddy that is usually 100% oblivious to what's going on around him. He definitely needs to carry in order to be safe. :lol:
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Eh, maybe. Carry probably won't help someone who is really oblivious ... but he might get lucky I suppose. :)
 
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TurtleDude said:
many of us grew up shooting 1911 style pistols in competition so for us wiping off the safety is rather second nature. The reason why almost every police department either when to a Glock style (Glock MP or XD) or a decocker style (Beretta, HK, SIG) is that cops don't have the time to make that action reflexively
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I own and shoot 1911's competitively as well. I jst won't carry one. I'm not saying people shouldn't carry them, just that I would not carry one. Too many potentials for a malfunction of the safety so far as I'm concerned. Again, just my opinion and experience.
 
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Goshin said:
Eh, maybe. Carry probably won't help someone who is really oblivious ... but he might get lucky I suppose. :)
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The fact that he could get lucky makes him safer. If he's relying on his own wits, he's definitely ****ed. :lol:
 
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Tigger said:
I own and shoot 1911's competitively as well. I jst won't carry one. I'm not saying people shouldn't carry them, just that I would not carry one. Too many potentials for a malfunction of the safety so far as I'm concerned. Again, just my opinion and experience.
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I like 1911's a lot, just not as a concealed carry gun. Most of them are bricks, and the action/safety setup just isn't my cup of tea for CCW.


Would love to have one (5" bbl) for a house or glovebox gun, though.
 
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Tucker Case said:
The fact that he could get lucky makes him safer. If he's relying on his own wits, he's definitely ****ed. :lol:
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Yeah, I have peeps like that. Love 'em, but they make me shake my head. :doh
 
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TurtleDude said:
that is not consistent with reality when applied to most people. IF that were true, there would be more than tenK bear attacks. Your side constantly whines about the 10K firearms deaths each year (many of them mope on mope killings). I can think of maybe 2-4 fatal bear attacks a year. So your perception does not comport with known factual evidence
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My side?
Your perception does not 'comport' with 'factual evidence'.
 
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Tucker Case said:
I have a two-year old son that I often carry in my arms. When I carry him, I use my left arm in case there's some reason I need my right arm for emergency purposes. If I carried a gun on me, which I personally do not, I would often find myself in a position where I only have one arm free.

Pretty macho and juvenile, right?
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I didn't realize that being prepared to shoot it out with a child in your arms might be a consideration. But who knows, the zombie apocalypse could happen, right?
 
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Grand Mal said:
I didn't realize that being prepared to shoot it out with a child in your arms might be a consideration.
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People don't get shot at while they are near children? who knew? How's everything in fairyland anyway?
 
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I don't know anything about guns, but....

Wouldn't it be more badass to pull out your gun and **** it in your mugger's face than to just pull it out and start shooting?
 
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aberrant85 said:
I don't know anything about guns, but....

Wouldn't it be more badass to pull out your gun and **** it in your mugger's face than to just pull it out and start shooting?
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It's not about being a badass, it's about eliminating a threat.
 
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aberrant85 said:
I don't know anything about guns, but....

Wouldn't it be more badass to pull out your gun and **** it in your mugger's face than to just pull it out and start shooting?
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Not if the mugger has control of one of your arms. Many muggers don't like to give you advance notice of their intent and prefer to jump you from behind. Racking the slide is not a one handed operation for many people.



But some are very good at it

 
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Grand Mal said:
I didn't realize that being prepared to shoot it out with a child in your arms might be a consideration. But who knows, the zombie apocalypse could happen, right?
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Actually I had something like this happen, or almost happen.


I was in a parking lot, had my child (he was around 8 I think) holding my left hand (traffic you know). Two men working as a team approached me from different directions, apparently intent on mugging me.


I sidestepped to put my back to a car, leading my child with one hand while putting my other on my concealed handgun.

When the two men saw I was armed, they ceased their approach and left the area quickly.
 
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Goshin said:
Actually I had something like this happen, or almost happen.


I was in a parking lot, had my child (he was around 8 I think) holding my left hand (traffic you know). Two men working as a team approached me from different directions, apparently intent on mugging me.


I sidestepped to put my back to a car, leading my child with one hand while putting my other on my concealed handgun.

When the two men saw I was armed, they ceased their approach and left the area quickly.
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The only time I am ever worried about that kind of thing is when I am with my son. I'm not concerned about my own safety all that much, but I am concerned about his safety.
 
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Tucker Case said:
The only time I am ever worried about that kind of thing is when I am with my son. I'm not concerned about my own safety all that much, but I am concerned about his safety.
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How's the little Tucker doing, anyway? What is he now, about a year old? More?


I remember when my boy was small... whooo, talk about worries! :) For one thing I thought my left arm was going to permanently freeze in the 'carrying child in crook of elbow' position. :mrgreen:
 
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Goshin said:
How's the little Tucker doing, anyway? What is he now, about a year old? More?
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2 years and 5 months tomorrow. I finally understand the whole "you won't know where the time went" thing. And his favorite thing in the world right now is pointing out any letters he sees ("Dada! It's a C! It's an A!") or repeating any swear words I happen to drop. :lol:


I remember when my boy was small... whooo, talk about worries! :) For one thing I thought my left arm was going to permanently freeze in the 'carrying child in crook of elbow' position. :mrgreen:
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:lol: I love the "I'm going to take about five steps before throwing a tantrum and completely giving up on walking" thing.
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
Not if the mugger has control of one of your arms. Many muggers don't like to give you advance notice of their intent and prefer to jump you from behind. Racking the slide is not a one handed operation for many people.
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Just curious, but in the event that you are threatened, is there any consideration for using the gun as a show of force to prevent an alteration, like what happened to Goshin, or do you assume that it's either you or him, and you just go to put down the threat where it stands?

In other words are you thinking of the confrontation in two steps (step 1, demonstrate force, step 2, follow up demonstration with force if required) or is it just one step (respond with force)?
 
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aberrant85 said:
Just curious, but in the event that you are threatened, is there any consideration for using the gun as a show of force to prevent an alteration, like what happened to Goshin, or do you assume that it's either you or him, and you just go to put down the threat where it stands?

In other words are you thinking of the confrontation in two steps (step 1, demonstrate force, step 2, follow up demonstration with force if required) or is it just one step (respond with force)?
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I wouldn't call what Goshin did a show of force so much as it was preparation to use force if needed.
 
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Tucker Case said:
2 years and 5 months tomorrow. I finally understand the whole "you won't know where the time went" thing. And his favorite thing in the world right now is pointing out any letters he sees ("Dada! It's a C! It's an A!") or repeating any swear words I happen to drop. :lol:




:lol: I love the "I'm going to take about five steps before throwing a tantrum and completely giving up on walking" thing.
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Lawd yes. I think GJr spend almost his entire first two years in the crook of my elbow, and the next two years riding on my shoulders. I admit I often wimped out, it was easier to just pick him up and carry on that drag him along doing the leg-limp-noodle dance. :doh
 
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Tucker Case said:
I wouldn't call what Goshin did a show of force so much as it was preparation to use force if needed.
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In either case, is there consideration of using the gun as a deterrent before using it as a weapon?
 
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Tucker Case said:
I wouldn't call what Goshin did a show of force so much as it was preparation to use force if needed.
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Pretty much, yeah.

When I realized what was going on, first thought was to try to keep my child out of harm's way as much as possible, and move where neither could get at my back. Second thought was to stop the attack before it got started good... I secured a good grip on my pistol then paused a fraction of a second to evaluate, we were not QUITE at the point of no return yet.

If they'd continued their approach, I would have drawn, and at that point they would have either 180'd in a hurry or there may have been gunfire.

If I can scare some mope off without having to shoot him, great... but when I reach, its always with the realization that I may have to use it immediately.



Didn't have time to get mad or scared while it was happening, I was too busy. :)
 
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aberrant85 said:
Just curious, but in the event that you are threatened, is there any consideration for using the gun as a show of force to prevent an alteration, like what happened to Goshin, or do you assume that it's either you or him, and you just go to put down the threat where it stands?

In other words are you thinking of the confrontation in two steps (step 1, demonstrate force, step 2, follow up demonstration with force if required) or is it just one step (respond with force)?
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Your ability, as a civilian, to legally use deadly force is extremely limitted. I presume you are talking about the option of performing a citizen's arrest as opposed to shooting to stop the criminal act. Simply brandishing a gun to make the "bad guy" leave, only to either be better prepared next time, or to prey upon another, accomplishes very little, IMHO.
 
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aberrant85 said:
In either case, is there consideration of using the gun as a deterrent before using it as a weapon?
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No. When you go for a gun, you should always be prepared to shoot immediately. Otherwise, you shouldn't be reaching for a gun at all. You won't always shoot immediately when you draw, but getting ready to shoot is the only reason to draw. You always adapt to the situation (a person running away once you draw means you don't shoot, obviously), but you shouldn't wave a gun around hoping to deter people.
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
Your ability, as a civilian, to legally use deadly force is extremely limitted. I presume you are talking about the option of performing a citizen's arrest as opposed to shooting to stop the criminal act. Simply brandishing a gun to make the "bad guy" leave, only to either be better prepared next time, or to prey upon another, accomplishes very little, IMHO.
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No, I don't mean to suggest that if you choose to carry a gun that you could carry an unloaded gun or be unprepared to use it and still be effective. I think if you legally carry a gun you should be prepared to use it. I also think, though, that in your determination to use it, you might be able to back down your assailant before you have to.
 
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Grand Mal said:
Well, then, ignore what I say because I've never feared for my life at someone else's hands. I guarantee I wouldn't keep my family in a place that didn't feel safe to me.
I'll ask you what I asked him, do you live in Mogadishu? Or are you imagining monsters under the bed?
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No one EVER needs a weapon. Until they need one. If they have one, are prepared, and have the will to use it they will likely be OK. If not, they are ****ed. Funny how that works.

Do you advocate for police officers to be unarmed?
 
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