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Thread: Do you carry one in the chamber?[W:26]

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    Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    You make it a habit of assigning others statements to those who didn't issue it? And TD's comment wasn't about the bravery of those who own weapons, but rather the spinelessness of some people who hate others having guns, you apparently didn't read between the lines.
    several studies have indicated that personal timidity is often a motivating factor behind gun banning attitudes



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    Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Nope...Im about to show you how stupid your position is.
    You don't know what my position is, laddybuck. But let's see how bad it gets...

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    So...
    (he said, rolling up his sleeves)

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    you admit that you DONT believe in disarming the police. Why? Well...because they deal with violent criminals and thugs. Sweet. But then you completely jump the tracks when you ignore the REALITY as to WHOM those violent criminals and thugs TARGET before they draw police attention. You remember the police...right? the guys you think SHOULD be armed? Because in YOUR happy little world...you nor anyone you know has ever had to deal with violent criminals. Some of us have. A good number of us in fact. Why...when you look at the crime statistics the FACT is that 1 in 4 women are going to be sexually assaulted in their lifetime and 5 in 6 citizens will be involved in some form of violent crime. No...not in a year, and certainly people that live in some communities are less likely while others are more likely to skew the figures high. But...the reality is that the majority of people will be involved in a violent crime at some time in their adult lives. Why do people carry armed? Because they choose not to be a 'victim'.
    In my happy little world, violent criminals and thugs target other violent criminals and thugs. I don't know what your numbers mean because you didn't tell me where they come from, when, or what they represent but it doesn't matter anyway. You want to/feel you need to carry a gun and that's fine with me. Fill yer holster. I hope, for the sake of those around you, that you have a clue or two of what you're doing but making sure of that would be regulation and that can't be allowed, can it. As I said elsewhere, if I feared for my safety and my family's security to the same extent, I'd arm myself too. But I'm trying to understand, if the society you live in is really so violent, why you live there. There's a nagging suspicion that I can't quite quiet that says, maybe the situation isn't so dire.

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    Your little cable you have dangling I'm sure serves you just fine. But others...well...they would laugh at it. And BTW... at your cute little internet tough guy portrayal with your bad ass 2 foot length of tech cable.

    https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/bjs/104274.pdf
    Didn't open the link.
    'cute little internet tough guy portrayal'- seriously? You actually typed that crap?
    Go stand over there, beside the guy in the turtle costume.

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    Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    You make it a habit of assigning others statements to those who didn't issue it?
    I didn't. Go back and read the post. It was not assigned to you. You just over looked the quote attribution.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    And TD's comment wasn't about the bravery of those who own weapons, but rather the spinelessness of some people who hate others having guns, you apparently didn't read between the lines.
    Yes, they were. You didn't read between the lines. He was saying that I must be a coward for not wanting to keep a gun position 1 at all times. Now that we're done with that ridiculous mess, did you want to have a discussion at all, or was this just meant to be a big circle jerk for you guys that I've interrupted.

    I put up a hypothetical about the validity of the arguments of danger that were used in this thread as the basis of the rationale for keeping the chamber round. Do you, or anyone else, want to address the argument that, if you're argument for keeping it hot is that you may be attacked at any moment, then aren't you taking additional precautions? When I've kept a pistol on me in the past, I only put a round in the chamber when I was pulling into a place that I considered to be of specific danger. The rest of the time I was just carrying it to have when I actually did see a specific danger. In the rest of the day, seeing no specific danger, I didn't feel the need to be ready to shoot at all times.

    I see arguments here that people do feel the need to be ready to shoot at all times. So my question is, if that's really true, if you're really facing a real threat of attack at any moment, why not take more sane precautions, such as a vest?

    This is an exercise to help me see your rationale for carrying one in the chamber. That's all.

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    Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    I didn't. Go back and read the post. It was not assigned to you. You just over looked the quote attribution.



    Yes, they were. You didn't read between the lines. He was saying that I must be a coward for not wanting to keep a gun position 1 at all times. Now that we're done with that ridiculous mess, did you want to have a discussion at all, or was this just meant to be a big circle jerk for you guys that I've interrupted.

    I put up a hypothetical about the validity of the arguments of danger that were used in this thread as the basis of the rationale for keeping the chamber round. Do you, or anyone else, want to address the argument that, if you're argument for keeping it hot is that you may be attacked at any moment, then aren't you taking additional precautions? When I've kept a pistol on me in the past, I only put a round in the chamber when I was pulling into a place that I considered to be of specific danger. The rest of the time I was just carrying it to have when I actually did see a specific danger. In the rest of the day, seeing no specific danger, I didn't feel the need to be ready to shoot at all times.

    I see arguments here that people do feel the need to be ready to shoot at all times. So my question is, if that's really true, if you're really facing a real threat of attack at any moment, why not take more sane precautions, such as a vest?

    This is an exercise to help me see your rationale for carrying one in the chamber. That's all.
    Again, you didn't read between the lines.
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    Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Again, you didn't read between the lines.
    You've dodged the entire question a third time. So at least I have an answer to my other question: Yes, this is a circle jerk.

    Oh, and TD was responding to my post that argued against carrying a gun with one in the chamber and he asked if I was motivated by "cowardice". That tells us that he thinks it's "brave" to keep a round chamber. He honestly thinks that it's "brave" to be afraid at all times that you may be attacked, and that not being that scared at all times is cowardly. So there were no lines to read between.

    And you seem to have finished before you ever started, so I guess I am, as well.
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    Do you carry one in the chamber?[W:26]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    You don't know what my position is, laddybuck. But let's see how bad it gets...



    (he said, rolling up his sleeves)



    In my happy little world, violent criminals and thugs target other violent criminals and thugs. I don't know what your numbers mean because you didn't tell me where they come from, when, or what they represent but it doesn't matter anyway. You want to/feel you need to carry a gun and that's fine with me. Fill yer holster. I hope, for the sake of those around you, that you have a clue or two of what you're doing but making sure of that would be regulation and that can't be allowed, can it. As I said elsewhere, if I feared for my safety and my family's security to the same extent, I'd arm myself too. But I'm trying to understand, if the society you live in is really so violent, why you live there. There's a nagging suspicion that I can't quite quiet that says, maybe the situation isn't so dire.



    Didn't open the link.
    'cute little internet tough guy portrayal'- seriously? You actually typed that crap?
    Go stand over there, beside the guy in the turtle costume.
    In your world private citizens are NOT the target of violent crime?

    You are a caricature. Pathetic.

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    Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    You've dodged the entire question a third time. So at least I have an answer to my other question: Yes, this is a circle jerk.

    Oh, and TD was responding to my post that argued against carrying a gun with one in the chamber and he asked if I was motivated by "cowardice". That tells us that he thinks it's "brave" to keep a round chamber. He honestly thinks that it's "brave" to be afraid at all times that you may be attacked, and that not being that scared at all times is cowardly. So there were no lines to read between.

    And you seem to have finished before you ever started, so I guess I am, as well.
    I never said it was brave-I said it was proper based on my years of training and my well recognized expertise in this field. Go and find me a single reputable trainer who advocates carrying an empty chamber. And find me one police department where that is the norm



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    Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Under Armor was actually developed to lessen some of the effects, the cooling effect and lightness of the shirts were developed because personnel wanted to get the pinch of other clothing alleviated.
    When I was in the Army, I avoided Under Armor like the plague after trying it out. I'm sure they make new stuff now, but that compression fit crap was uncomfortable as hell, and if you get caught in a flash fire/explosion/anything else involving extreme heat, it'll be like wearing napalm on your upper torso. Develops a nasty stink that can't be washed out, and can only be machine washed a couple of times before those pesky little pin-holes start showing up. Go with Starter or Xpro(?) instead. It's only about 10-15 bucks a shirt, and they're made of the same materials.
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    Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    When I was in the Army, I avoided Under Armor like the plague after trying it out. I'm sure they make new stuff now, but that compression fit crap was uncomfortable as hell, and if you get caught in a flash fire/explosion/anything else involving extreme heat, it'll be like wearing napalm on your upper torso. Develops a nasty stink that can't be washed out, and can only be machine washed a couple of times before those pesky little pin-holes start showing up. Go with Starter or Xpro(?) instead. It's only about 10-15 bucks a shirt, and they're made of the same materials.
    Hmm. I get the napalm comment but maybe it was their first line, the new stuff is exceptional IMO. The material definitely doesn't like open fire though I can vouch for that, when I smoked I had a cigarette ash into my shirt and it pretty much melted with all the side effects on my skin, hurt like hell.

    EDIT - Forgot a couple of things. My Under Armor gear hasn't failed material wise in over a decade, I actually beat the pro athelete and sponsor marketing when I bought it, was impressed right off the bat. I have stiching finally failing in the armpit region but it's still holding up, and the vinyl actually faded before the actual material portion, the composition of the shirt is solid but the sleeves are finally giving up.
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    Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?[W:26]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    In your world private citizens are NOT the target of violent crime?

    You are a caricature. Pathetic.
    That's what I was thinking. Private citizens are a predator's prime target, especially those they think are unaware, fragile, or prone to give in without any kind of fight.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

    LMR

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