• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Do you carry one in the chamber?[W:26]

Do you carry with one in the chamber?


  • Total voters
    39
Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

All ranges require guns unloaded and pointing down range. Everyone knows the safest place on a gun is behind the muzzle. What does that have to do with a holstered weapon?

Because you have to take it out of your holster at some point. At that point, you've raised the likelihood of an accidental discharge considerably.

I want to restate that my whole argument does not apply to people who have a meaningful reason to fear a likely attack, but that's why I brought up the vest test. How much danger are you actually in at any given point in time? If you're pretty much not in any danger at all, then the argument for carrying it hot, that you could be attacked at any second, seems less meaningful.
 
Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

Because you have to take it out of your holster at some point. At that point, you've raised the likelihood of an accidental discharge considerably.

I want to restate that my whole argument does not apply to people who have a meaningful reason to fear a likely attack, but that's why I brought up the vest test. How much danger are you actually in at any given point in time? If you're pretty much not in any danger at all, then the argument for carrying it hot, that you could be attacked at any second, seems less meaningful.


Reducto ad absurdium, that same argument could be used for saying you don't need to carry a gun at all. :lamo


But seriously... if you don't feel comfortable with one in the chamber, then carry on an empty chamber. :shrug:


Plenty of us have done otherwise for decades and had no problems. My theory is if you're going to carry it should be ready to go without a lot of fiddling about, because (even if the ODDS are low) IF it DOES happen it usually happens really quick and the more operations you have to engage in (like racking) to ready your answer, the more likely to are to end up in 'second place' (ie dead).

But to each his own...
 
Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

Reducto ad absurdium, that same argument could be used for saying you don't need to carry a gun at all. :lamo


But seriously... if you don't feel comfortable with one in the chamber, then carry on an empty chamber. :shrug:


Plenty of us have done otherwise for decades and had no problems. My theory is if you're going to carry it should be ready to go without a lot of fiddling about, because (even if the ODDS are low) IF it DOES happen it usually happens really quick and the more operations you have to engage in (like racking) to ready your answer, the more likely to are to end up in 'second place' (ie dead).

But to each his own...

Of course. I'm not saying anyone should be barred from carrying with a round chamber. On revolvers, I do. Well, I've only had one revolver, a S&W model 686 .357, and it was a very heavy draw to **** it, so it wasn't something that would happen accidentally. All my semi-auto's have had firing pins instead of hammers, though, so once you've cocked it, it's ready to fire. I guess it would be different on the type of gun you can rack, then let the hammer back down, and only have to pull the hammer to have it ready to fire again.

Anyway, I don't think it should be illegal or anything. I just wanted to see someone sell their thinking. The hypothetical about the vest was meant to flush that out. Sadly, no bites. Just juvenile nonsense about being "afraid" to have a gun with a round chamber.

Had only intended to get a good discussion going, but this really didn't turn out to be the right thread for any kind of discussion above ad hominem.
 
Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

Lasermax? Does that mean the laser shows exactly where you're aimed? I'm in!!!!!

yeah but before you jump on that bandwagon I will tell you most of us who carry and shoot a lot will tell you you can acquire your sights faster then you find that red dot on a bad guy. You should be looking at your front sight

where lasers have their uses is in a prison where a bad guy is holding a hostage and you have one on a rifle with a spotter.
 
Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

Because you have to take it out of your holster at some point. At that point, you've raised the likelihood of an accidental discharge considerably.

I want to restate that my whole argument does not apply to people who have a meaningful reason to fear a likely attack, but that's why I brought up the vest test. How much danger are you actually in at any given point in time? If you're pretty much not in any danger at all, then the argument for carrying it hot, that you could be attacked at any second, seems less meaningful.


that is just plain silly. I have shot in over 100 USPSA matches and a 100+ other matches that required a draw. I have done over 2000 draws at training academies. I have never seen an AD at any of those places on the draw.

And you seem to be impervious to the realty that if I am EXPECTING an attack I will be behind hard cover with some serious artillery like a Red Jacket 20 round AK shotgun or a M4 rifle.

I carry a pistol in case I am attacked when I am not expecting it
 
Back
Top Bottom