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    Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I wouldn't call what Goshin did a show of force so much as it was preparation to use force if needed.
    That's exactly right. Most people don't want to take a life, and would only do so as a last resort, I know I have no intention of harming someone unless they are an imminent threat, if the person presenting the threat doesn't understand that my firearm isn't simple decoration and force my hand, well, unfortunately I would then have to engage. I would assume that is Goshin's approach as well.
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    Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Why is it that so many liberals are opposed to self defense? iS it

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    2) are they cowards
    It honestly makes you feel "brave" to have a round chamber at all times? How exactly is that bravery?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    [ . . . ] People who know nothing about the use of arms, self defense etc [ . . . ]
    I've been shooting since I was 9 and I started boxing when I was 15. Maybe you don't know what you're talking about?



    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Don't get silly here, vests are expensive and aren't practical.
    So there's not enough of a danger to be uncomfortable but there is enough of a danger to keep a round chamber? I mean, if there's a real risk at any given time, I agree. But if there isn't, I just think it's an unnecessary addition to an already high risk. Any time you handle a gun it's dangerous. I'm sure you already know that. Any time you handle one that's round, it's much, much more dangerous.

    For example, at a range I used to shoot on, we had to walk out to pull our targets. When we broke to get our targets, everyone had to put their gun on the table, unloaded with the safety on, and no one was allowed to touch their weapons again until we all agreed to an all clear. That's because it's dangerous any time you handle a gun, especially one that's loaded and round. (That site, by the way, had been open since before I was born and had never had an accident -- for good reason, they practiced rational safety).

    Sometimes there's a call for carrying hot. I don't argue that at all. Cops, soldiers, some security personel, and people who are being stalked or are moving through a risky area or expect to be in an area they feel could present danger -- along with people who have dangerous lifestyles, like drug dealers. All good reasons to carry hot. I just think people should take a look at their environment before they decide to step it up to position one.

    Most of you probably already have. Some of you, though, are probably doing it because it makes you feel "brave" for some reason.
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    Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    It honestly makes you feel "brave" to have a round chamber at all times? How exactly is that bravery?
    Did I say "It makes me feel brave"? No, I didn't because bravery and cowardice have nothing to do with it, if I am attacked I'm going to be ready, end of story.



    So there's not enough of a danger to be uncomfortable but there is enough of a danger to keep a round chamber? I mean, if there's a real risk at any given time, I agree. But if there isn't, I just think it's an unnecessary addition to an already high risk. Any time you handle a gun it's dangerous. I'm sure you already know that. Any time you handle one that's round, it's much, much more dangerous.

    For example, at a range I used to shoot on, we had to walk out to pull our targets. When we broke to get our targets, everyone had to put their gun on the table, unloaded with the safety on, and no one was allowed to touch their weapons again until we all agreed to an all clear. That's because it's dangerous any time you handle a gun, especially one that's loaded and round. (That site, by the way, had been open since before I was born and had never had an accident -- for good reason, they practiced rational safety).

    Sometimes there's a call for carrying hot. I don't argue that at all. Cops, soldiers, some security personel, and people who are being stalked or are moving through a risky area or expect to be in an area they feel could present danger -- along with people who have dangerous lifestyles, like drug dealers. All good reasons to carry hot. I just think people should take a look at their environment before they decide to step it up to position one.

    Most of you probably already have. Some of you, though, are probably doing it because it makes you feel "brave" for some reason.
    Right, more silliness. Tactical vests require changes in clothing choices, they aren't exactly "all day wear". The tradeoff to not wearing a vest is pretty much okay to the level of danger "potentially faced", not so much with a firearm. Besides, the best example of how badly this hypothetical of yours fails is the fact that officers on duty don't always "vest up", most officers will wear a vest to serve warrants, or in high crime areas but traffic cops........not so much, reason being the actual probability of danger.
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    Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    It honestly makes you feel "brave" to have a round chamber at all times? How exactly is that bravery?



    I've been shooting since I was 9 and I started boxing when I was 15. Maybe you don't know what you're talking about?





    So there's not enough of a danger to be uncomfortable but there is enough of a danger to keep a round chamber? I mean, if there's a real risk at any given time, I agree. But if there isn't, I just think it's an unnecessary addition to an already high risk. Any time you handle a gun it's dangerous. I'm sure you already know that. Any time you handle one that's round, it's much, much more dangerous.

    For example, at a range I used to shoot on, we had to walk out to pull our targets. When we broke to get our targets, everyone had to put their gun on the table, unloaded with the safety on, and no one was allowed to touch their weapons again until we all agreed to an all clear. That's because it's dangerous any time you handle a gun, especially one that's loaded and round. (That site, by the way, had been open since before I was born and had never had an accident -- for good reason, they practiced rational safety).

    Sometimes there's a call for carrying hot. I don't argue that at all. Cops, soldiers, some security personel, and people who are being stalked or are moving through a risky area or expect to be in an area they feel could present danger -- along with people who have dangerous lifestyles, like drug dealers. All good reasons to carry hot. I just think people should take a look at their environment before they decide to step it up to position one.

    Most of you probably already have. Some of you, though, are probably doing it because it makes you feel "brave" for some reason.
    Your questions demonstrate a great deal of ignorance of self defense issues. your posts suggest you obviously appear afraid of guns and carrying them. Pistols are designed to be carried loaded. Your question about bravery is both irrelevant to this discussion and sadly the sign of an ulterior motivation when it comes to self defense.

    Boxing is a good sport-My father was a GG finalist and Navy Champion. I was pretty good at boxing until I realized grappling arts were far better for self defense.

    I am a firearms trainer. I am a national class shooter and expert on the legal aspects of self defense. I have taught at some of the most prestigious academies where self defense is taught to both LEOS and other citizens. Its STUPID to carry a gun with an empty chamber. In the case of modern revolvers-it does nothing to increase safety and deprives you of another shot-often in a weapon that has few rounds to start with. IN a semi automatic, it triples or quadruples the time it takes to deploy the weapon. In other words it is really really stupid

    Please stop embarrassing yourself with posts that demonstrate such a complete misunderstanding of this subject



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    Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Yes it does. Looks like this guy had one in the chamber:

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    Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    I think you'll really like the range time. Did you decide on a new firearm, or are you sticking with the 38?
    I'm sure I will, Surtr. No, I'm not going to carry the .38. It's too big. I want something smaller. Last weekend, we were with a good friend who showed me his carry weapon. It's a 380...? If I remember correctly? I'll ask again when the time comes. It's a small weapon, but he says it packs a great punch. (Again ??) He put it in his cargo pants pocket and it was invisible. I like that. I'd have to worry about showing a holster. A pocket seems more user-friendly to me. Who knows though? I'm going to try as many as I can before I buy.
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    Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?[W:26]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    To any that Open an/or Conceal carry. When you do, do you have your weapon Condition 1 ( round in the chamber) or condition 3 ( no round in the chamber). I always carry one in the chamber just because makes my draw all the more smoother since I all I have to do is disengage the safety with my thumb.
    Just for TD, never needed a weapon.

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    Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?[W:26]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Just for TD, never needed a weapon.
    I have never needed a fire extinguisher or flood insurance yet either.

    Again, we understand you don't approve of people being armed and want to question the sanity of those who carry based on your own situation.



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    Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?[W:26]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I have never needed a fire extinguisher or flood insurance yet either.

    Again, we understand you don't approve of people being armed and want to question the sanity of those who carry based on your own situation.
    Just never needed one, but I have been in a fire and a flood.

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    Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?[W:26]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Just never needed one, but I have been in a fire and a flood.
    so your experience really shouldn't be the guide for the rest of us

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