View Poll Results: Is it fair to call Republicans "The Party of Lincoln?"

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    Re: Is it fair to call Republicans "The Party of Lincoln"?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    The Republican party has changed the most it ever has since 1968 and the "Southern Strategy."
    Any more excuses? Anyone? Anyone?

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    Re: Is it fair to call Republicans "The Party of Lincoln"?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    The GOP has often been called "The Party of Lincoln." It's true that the first Republican president was Abraham Lincoln.

    But the implication is that the party is politically aligned with how Lincoln was. Do you think that that is a true description?
    Technically true, but anachronistic.
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    Re: Is it fair to call Republicans "The Party of Lincoln"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I think that you are reading far too much into "The Party of Lincoln". He was the first majorly successful republican, so there is nothing wrong with referring to the republican party as "The Party of Lincoln".
    The Republican glory years: when the party actually had sound policy and great leadership. I would no sooner deny the Republicans this glory than I would deny the Cubs fan their 1908 World Series championship.

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    Re: Is it fair to call Republicans "The Party of Lincoln"?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    The GOP has often been called "The Party of Lincoln." It's true that the first Republican president was Abraham Lincoln.

    But the implication is that the party is politically aligned with how Lincoln was. Do you think that that is a true description?
    Well, you should know that binary reasoning cannot be all there is. None of are parties can be consistent with policies of the past.

    The party of Lincoln... Yes. As for your qualifiers, no.

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    Re: Is it fair to call Republicans "The Party of Lincoln"?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    How much is racism a factor? Not saying every Republican is a racist, or that some Democrats aren't. Just a lot of Dixiecrats became Southern Republicans.
    The constant liberal lie.

    There were all along since the Civil War, more racist democrats than republicans. Racism still exists in both parties, but even today. More democrats are racist than republicans.

    More republicans as a percentage voted for the 1964 Civil Rights act than democrats.

    Too many democrats believe in quota systems even today, which means they think blacks are inferior, and need help. That they can't compete equally.

    Think about it. Prejudice is not racism. Racism has to do with believing another race is inferior.

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    Re: Is it fair to call Republicans "The Party of Lincoln"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    MLK was a member of the Party of Lincoln
    There are those who will find reason to dismiss that, but his Niece is on record as saying he was.

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    Re: Is it fair to call Republicans "The Party of Lincoln"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Actually nobody in the US thought a lot about Lincoln for years. Then Obama was elected and started to pretend he was the new Lincoln and people started comparing the two and laughing at Obama's foolishness.
    You're joking, right?

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    Re: Is it fair to call Republicans "The Party of Lincoln"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I think assigning MLK to the Republican Party needs some clarification in the interest of intellectual honesty.

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    Well, I have a feeling his niece wouldn't make that claim if it was false.

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    Re: Is it fair to call Republicans "The Party of Lincoln"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Well, I have a feeling his niece wouldn't make that claim if it was false.
    You'd have reason to doubt it, actually. His niece doesn't own his legacy when other family members have contradicted her, as have numerous scholars, when we have documentation that shows the severe weakness of her claims by the actual party votes he had claimed to have made, to what extent was his organizational strength derived from not usually explicitly endorsing candidates, who he publicly campaigned for and against, and what that meant in terms of philosophical/coalition differences between then and now.
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    Re: Is it fair to call Republicans "The Party of Lincoln"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    You'd have reason to doubt it, actually. His niece doesn't own his legacy when other family members have contradicted her, as have numerous scholars, when we have documentation that shows the severe weakness in the actual party votes he had claimed to have made, and what that meant in terms of philosophical/coalition differences between then and now.
    Really?

    In '64, around 80% of the republicans voted YES for the civil rights act. Only around 60% of the democrats did.

    Just one reason MLK would align himself with many republican. He has stated he normally voted democrat, but that was before the Civil rights act, and just voting "mostly for" should tell us he was likely not partisan. Still, she claims he had registered as a republican. He may have previously been registered as a democrat. Without digging up the archives, we really don't know, and I haven't seen such work done.

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