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    Re: Is it fair to call Republicans "The Party of Lincoln"?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    The GOP has often been called "The Party of Lincoln." It's true that the first Republican president was Abraham Lincoln.

    But the implication is that the party is politically aligned with how Lincoln was. Do you think that that is a true description?
    Do you think the current Democratic Party is aligned with how FDR was?

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    Re: Is it fair to call Republicans "The Party of Lincoln"?

    I'm learning a lot from this thread.

    Being as honest as I can, the driving force behind the GOP in Lincoln's day was standing up to the slavery industry in the face of criticisms that its not the place of government to tell private business owners how to operate, opposing states rights and doing the right thing aka values or social conservatism. You guys are making me really ponder on this one but I'm actually starting to wonder now if the GOP of today more closely mirrors the GOP under Lincoln or the Confederacy Davis.

    I just wrote up a list of similarities and differences between today's GOP and Lincoln's GOP as well as today's GOP and the Confederacy. I decided to delete it. No need make people who happen to be emotional invested in their political tribalism get defensive.
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    Re: Is it fair to call Republicans "The Party of Lincoln"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I'm learning a lot from this thread.

    I just wrote up a list of similarities and differences between today's GOP and Lincoln's GOP as well as today's GOP and the Confederacy. I decided to delete it. No need make people who happen to be emotional invested in their political tribalism get defensive.
    Damn the torpedos, it may be a worthy discussion if everyone remains civil. .... Hmmm, you're probably correct; It maybe too much to ask.

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    Re: Is it fair to call Republicans "The Party of Lincoln"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Paine View Post
    Damn the torpedos, it may be a worthy discussion if everyone remains civil. .... Hmmm, you're probably correct; It maybe too much to ask.
    Go ahead and start a thread. I don't want people jumping all over me.
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    Re: Is it fair to call Republicans "The Party of Lincoln"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    Do you think the current Democratic Party is aligned with how FDR was?
    Interesting question. Although Democrats don't use "The Party of FDR" as a shorthand for the party, he is still the most revered figure from the party.

    Still, I think the Democratic party is a lot less liberal since FDR's time. FDR was way more focused on the poor, whereas modern Democrats have accepted the political difficulty of focusing on them and instead focus on the Middle Class and class mobility. In 1944 the top tax income rate was set at 94%. Democrats want to tax the rich higher, but not by that much. FDR created a huge amount of government spending to work on the country's infrastructure, support the arts, and put people back to work. While Democrats support these goals today, they are obstructed by the huge national debt that already exists, preventing us from spending our way out of the slow recovery.

    I'd say that modern Democrats are ideologically aligned with FDR, but only up to a point, and they give way to pragmatism most of the time.

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    Re: Is it fair to call Republicans "The Party of Lincoln"?

    Hard to answer that question, as many things have evolved or changed. Then you have to be aware that the Radical Republicans were a breed all their own in comparison with those old Whigs.
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    Re: Is it fair to call Republicans "The Party of Lincoln"?

    A ruthless warmonger that suspended habeas corpus? Yeah, he could be a Republican today.

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    Re: Is it fair to call Republicans "The Party of Lincoln"?

    In time, or perhaps, in the near future, the GOP will certainly be the party of Lincoln in one way I can think of.

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    Re: Is it fair to call Republicans "The Party of Lincoln"?

    The Republican party today is soooooooo radically different from the things that Lincoln stood for that it is a disgrace for them to claim that. I did notice at the last convention, as opposed to the dozens before it...they hardly made the reference.
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    Re: Is it fair to call Republicans "The Party of Lincoln"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Go ahead and start a thread. I don't want people jumping all over me.

    I believe you to be correct... while some subjects seem to invite 'snark' others deserve a reasonable, eventho contentious, discussion/debate. I wouldn't get in the kindergarten sandbox concerning the historic status of the Democratic Party... I will not do it concerning the Republican Party. It's already begun; while mild so far it no doubt will increase. I just don't do 'sandbox' well. So, as you, Ill probably sit this thread out and observe.
    You offered a great question. I had hope.... Ah, well; crap in one hand; wish in the other... which one gets full first?

    Have a terrific day Sir,

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