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Thread: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and why

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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    The invasion of Iraq was not predicated on the existence of CW alone. The existence and use of CW in Syria is not the only consideration, either. Yep, it's bad, but it can be much, much worse unless we are prepared to maintain our presence and pressure for an extended time. You might want to take a quick look at the disposition of our Navy right now. What ships are in port, and why, before you get too enthusiastic.
    Actually I don't think we should be involved in Syria. You kind of entered a conversation mid stream. This is whether or not conservatives are "rational' for supporting Iraq and not supporting Syria.

    Yes...Iraq was completely based on WMD's. The presentation to the UN was about Iraq WMD's. The sunday talk shows were filled with Administration members talking about Iraq WMD's.

    If the use/ownership of WMD's is a cause for war...why wouldn't be a cause in this situation? How is it rational to call for an actual invasion yet not support strikes?
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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    Ok, then where's the beef with Bush's actions in Iraq? Surely you're aware that government used chemical weapons against their population too, right?
    Yeah...nearly 20 years before we invaded.

    I'm not sure how that makes the conservative position rational. We'll invade you for using chemical weapons 20 years ago but against strikes for using them now?
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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Not if the stated goal is not to remove him from power, which it is. Saying achieving your stated goal is a failure is just silly.
    wait and see.

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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    and people wonder why some call the US empiralistic....
    We use Empirical evidence?
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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    We use Empirical evidence?
    Imperialistic.....better?
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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Imperialistic.....better?
    Better.
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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Yeah...nearly 20 years before we invaded.
    20 years? It was more like 15 but that's irrelevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I'm not sure how that makes the conservative position rational. We'll invade you for using chemical weapons 20 years ago but against strikes for using them now?
    Wow. The left was absolutely dead set against going into Iraq, screaming like banshees the whole time that there were no WMDs to the extent that became the rallying cry for those opposed to the action in Iraq. But now you're using the very rationale you once decried and turning that on me to say I'm the one being irrational.
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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    20 years? It was more like 15 but that's irrelevant.

    Wow. The left was absolutely dead set against going into Iraq, screaming like banshees the whole time that there were no WMDs to the extent that became the rallying cry for those opposed to the action in Iraq. But now you're using the very rationale you once decried and turning that on me to say I'm the one being irrational.
    ...and here's a little bit of irony to throw into the mix; Saddam's top military advisor saying their WMDs were moved into Syria:

    Israel Matzav: Video: Saddam's top military adviser says Iraqi WMD's were moved to Syria
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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    I voted no for the present, until the military-industrial complex offers me big bucks - and they will. At that time I will change my vote.










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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Your vote?

    Yea.
    Nay.
    Or Obama's favorite... Not Present.

    ###

    At the moment I'd vote no.

    This is all about Obama and covering his ass. He's looking to Republicans to save his ass. It's all political as everything is with this Amateur. First he says we can't tolerate this... then on Saturday before going golfing and everyone is expecting him to make a statement about upcoming bombings, he says he's going to Congress.












    Isn't it amazing how Obama left Kerry out to hang?

    The measures are half assed. A pin prick. Symbolic... Useless... and the problem is 100% of Obama's own making.

    Where is the coalition?

    Where is Obama's preparation after making the Red Line statement?

    Let the Arab League sort this out. We've sold them enough hi-tech equipment... we can assist with AWACs and the like.

    There is a reason to vote yea and it is because it's the US, and our credibility is on the line. But sorry, our credibility is damaged and the only thing that will restore it is having a mature adult as president, and the first opportunity for that it 2016.



    Vote anyway that you want to vote.

    It won't change the fact that Obama will be in the White House until another Democrat takes his place in 2017.




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