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Thread: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and why

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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    No we should not declare even limited engagement of force with Syria's military infrastructure even if Assad did order the use of chemical weapons against the resistance. And I suspect that the rebel forces were the ones that did the deed for this reason.
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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    I do not see a compelling reason for us to take "limited military action" for this event. One goes to war to kill, break things and win. You do not shoot at someone and then say ok, you've learned your lesson. War should be saved for when war is really necessary.

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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Yeah...nearly 20 years before we invaded.

    I'm not sure how that makes the conservative position rational. We'll invade you for using chemical weapons 20 years ago but against strikes for using them now?
    Iraq was an ally of the US then. It is what is called "turning a blind eye to". One reason we invaded Iraq when we did was "daddy's unfinished business".
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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    No, its not in our National Interest to get involved. George Washington must be rolling around in his grave.

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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    I wonder...if the vote happens to turn out as AGAINST authorizing the use of force, how will that play out both here and in the media? If the poll here is any indication, approx half the nays are self identified (or obvious) liberals. If the vote in congress turns out with dems coming out against the military action, will the headlines lead "GOP Obstructs Obama"? And who here DOESNT believe that is what Obama WANTS?

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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Yes! We need to show a united front to our enemies and would be enemies.
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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Yeah...nearly 20 years before we invaded.

    I'm not sure how that makes the conservative position rational. We'll invade you for using chemical weapons 20 years ago but against strikes for using them now?
    Not a single Soviet soldier was tried at Nuremburg, either. Your point?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    There is only disagreement amongst people who would prefer to believe that Assad is not responsible.
    Which is more reasonable. that Assad ordered the use of chemical weapons with the possible consequences for doing so or Al-Qaeda which had nothing to loose for doing so and targeted rival rebel groups and that could be pinned on Assad anyway?



    Russia is also not in the picture, they are not militarily involved in this question in any way, shape, or form.
    Are you playing the ignorant? Russia has other options than a military one to express their displeasure at the U.S. for bombing Assad. Your mindset is someone that is playing checkers against someone who is playing chess be prepared to be outmaneuvered.
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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Your vote?

    Yea.
    Nay.
    Or Obama's favorite... Not Present.

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    At the moment I'd vote no.
    This is all about Obama and covering his ass. He's looking to Republicans to save his ass. It's all political as everything is with this Amateur. First he says we can't tolerate this... then on Saturday before going golfing and everyone is expecting him to make a statement about upcoming bombings, he says he's going to Congress.

    Isn't it amazing how Obama left Kerry out to hang?

    The measures are half assed. A pin prick. Symbolic... Useless... and the problem is 100% of Obama's own making.

    Where is the coalition?

    Where is Obama's preparation after making the Red Line statement?

    Let the Arab League sort this out. We've sold them enough hi-tech equipment... we can assist with AWACs and the like.

    There is a reason to vote yea and it is because it's the US, and our credibility is on the line. But sorry, our credibility is damaged and the only thing that will restore it is having a mature adult as president, and the first opportunity for that it 2016.

    This whole scenario sounds just exactly like GW Bush and the Iraq war lies. Those of us that said the gov't was lying at that time were ridiculed and accused of a lack of patriotism. Especially by Republican/NeoCon/WarHawks. Hundreds of thousands died and are still dying as a result of the Rah! Rah! Cheerleading for war. Now the the War Party, and that would be Republicans have found strong objections to the war and it is all partisan. It ain't that complicated. The war creates chaos, death, destruction, and makes great profits for the already wealthy. I suggest everyone search the Internet and see who actually used chemical weapons and make the choice with logic, reason and an eye to humanitarian values. Ignore the mainstream media and do your homework. You will realize you are being led around by the nose by your minders. That's all.

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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    Which is more reasonable. that Assad ordered the use of chemical weapons with the possible consequences for doing so or Al-Qaeda which had nothing to loose for doing so and targeted rival rebel groups and that could be pinned on Assad anyway?




    Are you playing the ignorant? Russia has other options than a military one to express their displeasure at the U.S. for bombing Assad. Your mindset is someone that is playing checkers against someone who is playing chess be prepared to be outmaneuvered.
    It is virtually a certainty that regime troops were responsible for the chemical bombardment. They used a mixture of rockets and artillery with unitary or binary shells and exclusively targeted a rebel defended bastion. The FSA (and Islamists) not only lack access to this type of weaponry or its associated munitions they lack the technical experience to handle it and use it with this level of sophistication. One can either believe they have secretly surmounted these technical barriers, acquired this large armament and munitions stockpiles, secreted it across regime controlled territory, and deployed it in the extreme hope that they would never be discovered despite intense intelligence surveillance. Or you can believe either Assad or a local commander decided to fire weapons known to be in their possetion.

    The simpler answer makes much more sense to me.

    As for Russia yes it does and I've covered that numerous times. Rejecting the military option is something I've had to harp on because of some peoples astonishing willingness to consider it as a plausible possibility. Which it is not.
    Last edited by Sherman123; 09-03-13 at 09:23 PM.

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