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Thread: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and why

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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I supported the war in Iraq. Id support a war with Syria if the president can actually prove that Bashar Assad used chemical weapons against civilians. Not some pathetic weak missile strike to show how tough you are or pretend you did something. No...real world end of days ****. Assad must fall IF the president can actually prove Assad did it.
    See...this is what I assumed the reaction would be from individuals that supported war in Iraq. A full scale response to use of chemical weapons.


    MY question is...what proof is there? And why didnt the president respond in march when rebels used chemical weapons? is the 'red line' only applicable to Assad? In which case...WTF?
    Well it's kind of hard to target a rebel group with so many different factions.
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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    See...this is what I assumed the reaction would be from individuals that supported war in Iraq. A full scale response to use of chemical weapons.



    Well it's kind of hard to target a rebel group with so many different factions.
    Even harder when they are your boyz, right? When is a 'red line' not a red line? When you are selective about who crosses it.

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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good afternoon, humbolt.

    BHO might want to take on Syria, Iran, and Russia? China has interests in the area, too, so why not be all-inclusive? : This is getting more absurd and unbelievable by the day! Where are the cooler heads that may not agree that this is in America's best interest?
    It's impossible to say that U. S. influence in the region of late has been a stabilizing force. We've been anything but that. We can't predict the response some of Syria's allies may have to our proposed actions. We think we can, but we have been proven wrong far too many times lately, and this goes back in time for a lot longer than I care to think about. A commitment to principle is fine and I support it, but I think we should want a clearly stated policy and objective before we add a military response to the list of possible responses.

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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Since BHO seems determined to assuage his battered ego...and that is what it looks like at this point, since he didn't act two years ago when he could have...our allies look like the only adults here. And how he intends to accomplish this without "no boots on the ground" will be interesting. Will he drone or bomb Russia, too?
    Personally, I think Russia is more talk and swag than anything else - but I could be completely wrong. I wouldn't want anybody to make a decision based on my opinion. If we could just see a coherent policy within which this action might fit a strategic goal or something, that would be a plus. Right now, I don't see it.

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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    No apology needed. I just want to point out I don't support Syrian intervention. I'm just arguing that it's not "rational" which was the word used to support a ground invasion and occupation along with nation building and not support missile/air strikes for the use/ownage of WMD's.

    Sure...I agree it's humanitarian in nature like Bosnia but the humanitarian reason was also used as a reason for war in Iraq.

    In fact every box checked yes for Saddam (even if the link is weak) can be check for Assad.

    Ownership of WMD's and usage against his own people...check
    Breaking of international law...check
    Links to terrorist organization...check and I would argue the link is much closer between Syria than was the case with Iraq. I think the link with Iraq and terrorist groups is pretty weak.


    Syria is a strong supporter of Hezbollah in Lebanon. As for the attempted assassination of a president...Bush Sr was still President. He didn't launch an invasion into Iraq.



    I'm sure there are a lot of conservatives that don't follow under the umbrella of neo-con. My question is leveled at those that did support and continued to support the war in Iraq and don't support a strike against Syria. Sure there are un-intended consequences...which is why I don't support a strike. At the same time...there were a lot of unintended potential consequences involved with a land invasion and occupation of a country.
    Now, that Saddam was paying for Palestinian suicide bomber is not really questionable. He did, and was pretty public about it. The families that received compensation were pretty verbal about it, as well. Bush Sr. had a somewhat larger global framework through which he viewed events than W did. Remember, one of the biggest pastimes of the media now is parsing individual words and extemporaneously providing context, and this is a relatively recently acquired art - always been a part of it, but not the total content of the news until just lately. I don't support a strike as things currently stand unless I can see something positive beyond just blowing a bunch of people and stuff up. Nobody comes remotely close to our expertise in that area.

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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    No because we arent the world policemen and Syria is unstable and we dont really know who the rebels are and bombing them isnt gonna make a difference its just killing more people.


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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    While it is horrible that Assad used chemical weapons on his citizens that is not our problem. Syria did not attack the US nor are they a threat to the US and as it stands they are only dealing with the affairs of things happening in their country. I have no reason to consider a government killing their own citizens a reason to declare war. Governments have been doing that nonsense since they came into existence and they will continue to do it for the remainder of their existence.

    I also want to mention they could only confirm that 281 died, not 1,429 that Kerry has throwing out there. The Obama Administration hasn't said how they came up with the number 1,429 either. At this point it stands as a number that is entirely unfounded.

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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yes for limited strikes, no on ground troops.
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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Your vote?

    Yea.
    Nay.
    Or Obama's favorite... Not Present.

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    At the moment I'd vote no.
    This is all about Obama and covering his ass. He's looking to Republicans to save his ass. It's all political as everything is with this Amateur. First he says we can't tolerate this... then on Saturday before going golfing and everyone is expecting him to make a statement about upcoming bombings, he says he's going to Congress.

    Isn't it amazing how Obama left Kerry out to hang?

    The measures are half assed. A pin prick. Symbolic... Useless... and the problem is 100% of Obama's own making.

    Where is the coalition?

    Where is Obama's preparation after making the Red Line statement?

    Let the Arab League sort this out. We've sold them enough hi-tech equipment... we can assist with AWACs and the like.

    There is a reason to vote yea and it is because it's the US, and our credibility is on the line. But sorry, our credibility is damaged and the only thing that will restore it is having a mature adult as president, and the first opportunity for that it 2016.
    I vote nay, and I agree 100% with your post above too.

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    Re: You're The Congressman... You Make the Call on Syria (Yea... or Nay.. or...) and

    I vote no right now, if we go into military action of any kind we need to do it right. We should destroy the Assad regime and ensure that a government that serves our interests that is not a militant Islamic or terrorist group comes into power. We don't need another Egypt.
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