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    re: Obama is making a joke of America [W:165]

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Presidents can be wrong sometimes, you know. What is he, some kind of God?
    Give the man a chance.
    What in your opinion was he wrong about, drawing the line in the first place or backing down when it was crossed? Serious question, I'm just not sure what you mean here.

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    re: Obama is making a joke of America [W:165]

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    No!

    Actually, kudos to Obama for asking Congress and not acting like an emperor, like some other US presidents.
    Too late for last minute pretensions of self-restraint. That ship has sailed. He already flapped his jaw like a dunce.

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    re: Obama is making a joke of America [W:165]

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    I agree. Even though I am not big on interventionism...if you are going to do it...DO it!

    "Here is my line in the sand...oh you crossed it? POW! Right in the kisser."
    I agree that we don't belong in Syria but as you said once you make a statement like Obama did you damn sure better enforce it or you look like a fool and you make America look like a joke.

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    re: Obama is making a joke of America [W:165]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    First Obama said he didn't need congress, it's only after he couldn't get the support from Europe that he wanted and expected that he went running to congress for cover.
    Yep. Now that Obama finds himself feeling alone and with an unpopular idea he needs a way to look reasonable and responsible. If congress says OK then he can assert that he was right all along, if congress says no then he will blame congress for things being left a mess in Syria. The same approach was used by Obama with PPACA, ObamaCare is not really Obama's idea, he wanted UHC, but since congress critters (via lobbyists) came up with something different he can hope the change will work, by taking credit for it if it works and saying that he prefered a different approach if (when?) it fails.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    re: Obama is making a joke of America [W:165]

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    No!

    Actually, kudos to Obama for asking Congress and not acting like an emperor, like some other US presidents.
    Oh please. He only stated he would go through Congress after his puppet Kerry railed on and on about expediency in taking military action.

    You see, for Obama he backed himself into a corner. He hesitated. So to keep himself from looking like the bafoon he is, he back peddled.

    He calls for military strikes, no "boots on the ground", due to Syria's action being a threat to national security.

    This way, he passes the Buck to Congress, doesn't call a special session....Oh no...we're going to wait until September 9th, when Congress reconvenes, to let them take a vote, after debating the issue.

    Congress votes Yes, He's absolved himself and Kerry of jumping the gun...they vote no, he will wash his hands and say, "well, I tried"....again, absolving himself of making decisions a CIC should be making.

    Tell me. If Syria's actions are a threat to our national security, then why the hesitation if what he wants is a limited strike? Seems to me, a small town farm girl, that if the U.S. was in danger, action should be immediate and swift. This leads me to believe there is more at play here. Methinks Obama's mouth is writing checks his ass can't cash.

    He's an indecisive boob, and won't take the reigns as CIC.

    I for one, think we have NO business in Syria...but apparently Obama thinks differently and chooses to pass the buck.
    Fool me once, shame on you.
    Fool me twice....shame on me.

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    re: Obama is making a joke of America [W:165]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    What in your opinion was he wrong about, drawing the line in the first place or backing down when it was crossed? Serious question, I'm just not sure what you mean here.
    Drawing the line in the first place.

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    re: Obama is making a joke of America [W:165]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yep. Now that Obama finds himself feeling alone and with an unpopular idea he needs a way to look reasonable and responsible. If congress says OK then he can assert that he was right all along, if congress says no then he will blame congress for things being left a mess in Syria. The same approach was used by Obama with PPACA, ObamaCare is not really Obama's idea, he wanted UHC, but since congress critters (via lobbyists) came up with something different he can hope the change will work, by taking credit for it if it works and saying that he prefered a different approach if (when?) it fails.
    Excellent analyses. Obama has been very careful throughout his presidency to not be responsible for anything that happens on his watch but this time his buds in Europe left him twisting in the wind and now he desperately needs to be able to hide behind congress on this Syria fiasco he got us into with his idle threat.

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    re: Obama is making a joke of America [W:165]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yep. Now that Obama finds himself feeling alone and with an unpopular idea he needs a way to look reasonable and responsible. If congress says OK then he can assert that he was right all along, if congress says no then he will blame congress for things being left a mess in Syria. The same approach was used by Obama with PPACA, ObamaCare is not really Obama's idea, he wanted UHC, but since congress critters (via lobbyists) came up with something different he can hope the change will work, by taking credit for it if it works and saying that he prefered a different approach if (when?) it fails.
    I'm hoping that his purpose is to weasel out of it by blaming Congress; and I really hope Congress says "no attack." I hate political party games when it comes to the possibility of war.
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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    re: Obama is making a joke of America [W:165]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    Oh please. He only stated he would go through Congress after his puppet Kerry railed on and on about expediency in taking military action.

    You see, for Obama he backed himself into a corner. He hesitated. So to keep himself from looking like the bafoon he is, he back peddled.

    He calls for military strikes, no "boots on the ground", due to Syria's action being a threat to national security.

    This way, he passes the Buck to Congress, doesn't call a special session....Oh no...we're going to wait until September 9th, when Congress reconvenes, to let them take a vote, after debating the issue.

    Congress votes Yes, He's absolved himself and Kerry of jumping the gun...they vote no, he will wash his hands and say, "well, I tried"....again, absolving himself of making decisions a CIC should be making.

    Tell me. If Syria's actions are a threat to our national security, then why the hesitation if what he wants is a limited strike? Seems to me, a small town farm girl, that if the U.S. was in danger, action should be immediate and swift. This leads me to believe there is more at play here. Methinks Obama's mouth is writing checks his ass can't cash.

    He's an indecisive boob, and won't take the reigns as CIC.

    I for one, think we have NO business in Syria...but apparently Obama thinks differently and chooses to pass the buck.
    Yet another excellent analyses of this situation.

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    re: Obama is making a joke of America [W:165]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I agree that we don't belong in Syria but as you said once you make a statement like Obama did you damn sure better enforce it or you look like a fool and you make America look like a joke.
    Actually, if America bomb Syria just because Obama made a slip out, that would look like a foolish thing to me. Only fools don't admit their mistakes.

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