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    Re: Can the fast food strikes revive American labor unions?

    You know I don't do fast food much. If I have a long drive I might hit a place for their dollar menu and pick up a burger or chicken sandwich but it doesn't happen much. I look forward to doing this more in the future when it cost twice as much and I can order on an iPad at the front counter instead of some greedy little twerp that expects to fund his nike collection with $15hr.

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    Re: Can the fast food strikes revive American labor unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    they did it in the wrong order with the wrong goal. step one should have been unionizing. step two should have been negotiating for more control over schedules and better opportunities for upward mobility, not $15 an hour base pay.

    what really sucks about those jobs is that they are dead end with high turnover and little control over hours. this is also a problem in retail. if i were running the union, that's what i'd negotiate for. the base pay is always going to be low; what's important is the ability to move up, as well as frequency of raises.
    Dood...you are talking about FAST FOOD JOBS.

    I swear to god...people talking about unionizing fast food jobs, living wages, career progression...WTF is wrong with people?


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    Re: Can the fast food strikes revive American labor unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    True, If these people got living wages and unionize, do they know that most likely there union dues would must likely negate there living wages.
    Or the cost of all goods would increase, and heres the truly diabolical part...in 7 years, there ass has managed to work themselves up to salad prep. Woo hoo!

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    Re: Can the fast food strikes revive American labor unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Or they can just realizes that unskilled labor is always going to low paying jobs, since that is what they are design to be in the first place.
    it's entirely reasonable in a first world country to expect some control over hours worked and opportunities for promotion / raises. asking for $15 an hour base pay was stupid, but what i'm suggesting is not out of bounds.

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    Re: Can the fast food strikes revive American labor unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Or the cost of all goods would increase, and heres the truly diabolical part...in 7 years, there ass has managed to work themselves up to salad prep. Woo hoo!
    or their increase wage would disquilifed them from Government programs which they depend on.

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    Re: Can the fast food strikes revive American labor unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    "If the fast food workers achieve tangible results, it could transform low-wage fast food and retail in the same way that the United Auto Workers (UAW) and other unions helped to transform manufacturing during the 1930s. Their efforts, combined with the stimulative impact of World War II, helped birth a new American middle class and an organized labor Golden Age."

    So can they? In light of what happened to Detroit, do we even want a revival of labor unions?

    Can the fast food strikes revive American labor unions?
    Any fast food workers on board with this should be fired. Fast food is the lowest rung on the ladder, you don't stay there and demand raises for menial tasks a trained monkey could do, you move up to a better paying job.
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    Re: Can the fast food strikes revive American labor unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    or their increase wage would disquilifed them from Government programs which they depend on.
    Wouldn't THAT **** be hilarious!

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    Re: Can the fast food strikes revive American labor unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Dood...you are talking about FAST FOOD JOBS.

    I swear to god...people talking about unionizing fast food jobs, living wages, career progression...WTF is wrong with people?

    unions generally don't form when workers are being treated even slightly well. there's nothing unreasonable about asking for more control over hours worked and increased opportunity for promotion and raises. the businesses benefit, too, because turnover will drop, and the dedicated workers will move up the chain. additionally, the taxpayer would benefit, because right now, you're filling the gap. you might not be paying ten bucks for a big mac, but you're paying the difference in social safety nets. wouldn't you rather that they be able to avoid that by moving up and getting raises?

    i like that movie, though.

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    Re: Can the fast food strikes revive American labor unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Wouldn't THAT **** be hilarious!
    It does bring a tear to one's eye

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    Re: Can the fast food strikes revive American labor unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    unions generally don't form when workers are being treated even slightly well. there's nothing unreasonable about asking for more control over hours worked and increased opportunity for promotion and raises. the businesses benefit, too, because turnover will drop, and the dedicated workers will move up the chain. additionally, the taxpayer would benefit, because right now, you're filling the gap. you might not be paying ten bucks for a big mac, but you're paying the difference in social safety nets. wouldn't you rather that they be able to avoid that by moving up and getting raises?

    i like that movie, though.
    There are certain jobs that are considered 'dead end jobs'. There is no future, there is no career progression, and your worth is related to a-the job qualifications and b-how easily you can be replaced. In industrial jobs, the cost of turnover is approx 7500 per job to advertise, train, and process new hires. For fast food jobs the cost is negligible. A sign in the window. A manager taking 5 minutes to review an application. OJT. Thats about it.

    McDonalds (and other fast food chains) BTW HAS an upward mobility program. There ARE people identified as potential management for future corporate stores and they are singled out, sent to training, and given jobs that are well above minimum wage. But the average fast food worker? I can replace him with anyone with a pulse. Id say you could train a monkey to do the job but thats not really true. You CAN however train a mentally handicapped individual to do the job. THAT should tell you all you need to know about McJobs.

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