View Poll Results: Who should has the job of World Police?

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  • America is the world's remaining superpower. It's our job.

    8 18.18%
  • Let Russia become the new world police

    1 2.27%
  • China as the most people so it should be their job

    1 2.27%
  • Regional associations deal with regional matters; the Arab League, NAFTA, NATO.

    8 18.18%
  • The UN with its own standing military, of which America also subjected to.

    8 18.18%
  • Other

    18 40.91%
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    Re: Superpower: its a tough job but somebody's got to do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Our foreign and military posture is not the source of our financial and fiscal woes.
    Disagree.
    Wars are expensive...the flow of money in a war is on a one-way street....never to return
    Vietnam was becoming so costly that we HAD to leave.
    WW2 , how did we ever finance that ??

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    Re: Superpower: its a tough job but somebody's got to do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    my opinion :

    we cover the Americas, China deals with Asia, and Saudi Arabia handles the Middle East. we maintain our alliance with Israel.

    if we're to be global cop, there needs to be a global tax to pay for it. even if there were, though, i still wouldn't support it.

    also, any police action needs to be met with wartime tax rates at home. we can't afford to put another one on the credit card, and also, shared sacrifice. all tax brackets should go up significantly until the mission is complete.
    All good ideas...
    Judging on the behavior of the nations, there is a need for police....Syria goes beyond this need... But it is a civil war there , I think...I do not think at times that any nation in that area, other than Israel is ready to govern itself....probably the re-birth of an Ottoman Empire would be worse...maybe...

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    Re: Superpower: its a tough job but somebody's got to do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Disagree.
    Wars are expensive...the flow of money in a war is on a one-way street....never to return
    Vietnam was becoming so costly that we HAD to leave.
    WW2 , how did we ever finance that ??
    Historical Top Tax Rates and Wartime Reality Check

    the recent wars are the only ones we haven't raised taxes for.

    it's apparent how well that one worked.

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    Re: Superpower: its a tough job but somebody's got to do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    I did oppose this unprovoked attack on a country that wasn't a threat to any of its neighbours, yes. I never was a fan of the Milosovic regime or its policy towards towards the ethnic Albanians in Kosovo. Very quickly after the war it became clear that there had been no attempted genocide by the Serbs (as had been claimed). And the net result of the war was an ethnic cleasing in reverse. Certainly not something I would like to see repeated.
    Wait a second, you deny the genocide?
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    Re: Superpower: its a tough job but somebody's got to do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    That's right...in MY opinion, your's has no merit. Tuff.

    Now the rest of your post needs no response. I've said everything I need to say to you on the subject.
    Okay. Just that, in my opinion, your opinion has no merit neither then.
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    Re: Superpower: its a tough job but somebody's got to do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    My observation is there seems to be a culture of dishonesty and con-artistry with a lot of Africans I've met. In fact around half the Africans I've personally met seem to think dishonesty and scheming is the ticket to material success. On a more macro scale, we hear about widespread corruption and other problems in Africa that to me seem to be factors of their relative newness to representative government. Many of the problems we see in Africa with government was going on here a century ago and to a lesser extent even today that we finally matured out of for the most part. That's a lot different than the Middle East where suicide bombing is an act of worship.

    Plus a big part of why there is so much of what we consider barbaric practices is because they embrace the Medieval Age and all that the 8th to the 11th centuries represented culturally. The devotion to reliving that time in history continually is tied inseparably to a type of nationalistic pride and patriotism. This is because the Medieval Age was their "Golden Age," taken from them through military defeat. If you study up on it its undeniable they were accomplishing some pretty impressive stuff back then for that time in history and they're very proud of that and in practice seek to relive that time in history forever. However, with that they also try to embrace every nuance of life back then including many of the very disturbing 8th to 11th century norms based on modern aka western standards. Another major component of their culture is they feel it is their duty to enforce compliance up to and including the use of deadly force to what they think is right behavior on others. As long as they see the 8th to 11th century culture as the right way to live, its their sacred duty to make everybody around them also comply and we're all up in their grill because of the utter importance of oil, I can't see an end to conflict.
    What if sometime while trying to make Africans more civilized we realize that they tend to worship the prehistoric times?
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    Re: Superpower: its a tough job but somebody's got to do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    No NATO member was under obligation to join in this campaign as it was outside the NATO area and outside the scope of the NATO Treaty.
    Yet they did and you feel fooled that there was no ethnic cleansing? The sites that have evidenced ethnic cleansing conducted on Albanians is too graphic and not allowed to be shown as per rules of DP. But here is a less graphical one:

    Ethnic Cleansing in Kosovo: An Accounting

    See numbers like above 6000 massively murdered and put in mass graves. Happy now?
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    Re: Superpower: its a tough job but somebody's got to do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Hells bells I didn't want us in ... Kosovo...
    Do you regret it now though?
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    Re: Superpower: its a tough job but somebody's got to do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    my opinion :

    we cover the Americas, China deals with Asia, and Saudi Arabia handles the Middle East. we maintain our alliance with Israel.

    if we're to be global cop, there needs to be a global tax to pay for it. even if there were, though, i still wouldn't support it.

    also, any police action needs to be met with wartime tax rates at home. we can't afford to put another one on the credit card, and also, shared sacrifice. all tax brackets should go up significantly until the mission is complete.

    I like that (part in bold). We should be getting paid for it.
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    Re: Superpower: its a tough job but somebody's got to do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Wait a second, you deny the genocide?
    You claim that Serbia tried to physically extermintate the Albanian population? How great a percentage of the Albanian population of Kosovo was killed?

    Of course there was no genocide. Just a very brutal and nasty campaign to fight the KLA and its supporters.

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