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    Why was the Iraq War Illegal?

    Those who believe it was so are more than welcome to opine.

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    Re: Why was the Iraq War Illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Those who believe it was so are more than welcome to opine.
    But why would anyone want to make a fool of himself?

    On the other hand, I know only very few Germans that think the invasion was legal.

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    Re: Why was the Iraq War Illegal?

    It can be called a dirty job but for me it was legal.

    Bush bypassed the "system" pretty well to make an illegal action as legal.
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    Re: Why was the Iraq War Illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Those who believe it was so are more than welcome to opine.
    Anyone who chooses " No UN Authorization" is a subversive. IMHO

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    Re: Why was the Iraq War Illegal?

    We went in without UN authorization, as I recall. The UN, and in particular, France, was correct. They wanted PROOF of weapons of mass destruction, rather than "belief." They wanted the inspectors to finish and find some proof. So far, the inspectors had not found any proof that Iraq had WMDs, if you recall. But Cheney & Rumsfeld had a different agenda. As Wolf testified later before Congress, they decided to tell the people we were going in for WMDs because it was easier for the public to understand. The real reason, he said, was complicated and political. That was his testimony....that they had lied to the world. France caught the lie....and stupid people here gave up french fries! (mistakenly believing french fries were, well, french)

    Iraq represented a new policy, as well. First time we attacked another country who had done nothing to us or done an action that required us to invade them to protect our interests. It was new, unprecendented policy. And our stupid congress people fell for it. Including KERRY. Which is why I'm suspicious of Kerry's decision regarding Syria now. He says "trust me, I know Syria used Chem weapons." He has a track record of not being able to judge so-called evidence properly, so I wouldn't go by Kerry's judgment on this. I do, however, trust Obama's judgment.

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    Re: Why was the Iraq War Illegal?

    Under Just War Theory it had the required elements. A just cause, being a last resort, being declared by a proper authority, possessing right intention, having a reasonable chance of success, and the end being proportional to the means used. Legal all the way.
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    Re: Why was the Iraq War Illegal?

    Iraq posed absolutely no threat to the USA. Now the OILY issue. Iraq sold OIL in Euros and that threatened the US Dollar supremacy. Iraq didn't sell to USA OIL corporations. The Iraq War changed the price of OIL in Iraq to US Dollars and brought the Iraq OIL into Western Big Energy Corporation distribution networks. It profited the Energy corporations to FUEL the War. After the War the Iraq OIL entered the Big Energy Distribution Network to provide huge additional profits. It is only good business for Energy Corporations to promote/market Wars because it is really good for their business. Wait a Minute, holy mackerel, low life, scumbag lobbyists wouldn't be trying to buy Congressmen and women to gin up wars that produce huge profits for Big Energy. Of course they would. That just good marketing, Corporatist style.
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    Re: Why was the Iraq War Illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    We went in without UN authorization, as I recall. The UN, and in particular, France, was correct. They wanted PROOF of weapons of mass destruction, rather than "belief." They wanted the inspectors to finish and find some proof. So far, the inspectors had not found any proof that Iraq had WMDs, if you recall. But Cheney & Rumsfeld had a different agenda. As Wolf testified later before Congress, they decided to tell the people we were going in for WMDs because it was easier for the public to understand. The real reason, he said, was complicated and political. That was his testimony....that they had lied to the world. France caught the lie....and stupid people here gave up french fries! (mistakenly believing french fries were, well, french)

    Iraq represented a new policy, as well. First time we attacked another country who had done nothing to us or done an action that required us to invade them to protect our interests. It was new, unprecendented policy. And our stupid congress people fell for it. Including KERRY. Which is why I'm suspicious of Kerry's decision regarding Syria now. He says "trust me, I know Syria used Chem weapons." He has a track record of not being able to judge so-called evidence properly, so I wouldn't go by Kerry's judgment on this. I do, however, trust Obama's judgment.
    I am thinking maybe you were too young to actually remember that war and how it unfolded? I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

    Iraqi War Resolution : Text of Iraq War Resolution, Page 2

    Digest some of the reasons given to Congress. The fact of the matter was we had an agreement with Saddam after the first Gulf War...he broke that many times. We, under the Clinton Admin, then passed this: The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 [United States Congressional statement of policy calling for regime change in Iraq]. He repeatedly violated the no fly zones, he ignored 16 UN resolutions, he was waiting for a regime like the current one so he could reactivate his nuke program...GW wasn't playing that game.

    And you do not seem to have a lot of depth on your history. Lets see, did Spain attack us in the Spanish American War? Did North Korea attack us when we aided South Korea? Did Vietnam attack us? Did Grenada attack us, did Panama attack us? Did Saddam attack us in the first Gulf War? No to all of those...and all before the 2003 Iraq War. You have a lot of reading ahead of you there.
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    Re: Why was the Iraq War Illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Those who believe it was so are more than welcome to opine.
    Because a bunch of pussy leftist cowards don't believe that evil should be stopped or confronted, that it will just magically disappear while they run around showing their "concern" for all the poor Americans but say "screw you" to everyone else in the world. NM that there are probably far more Iraqi's that believe in what used to be the American dream than there are Liberals who do. Sad but true, many of the people in enemy countries are actually better Americans than Demo's are.
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    Re: Why was the Iraq War Illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Iraq posed absolutely no threat to the USA. Now the OILY issue. Iraq sold OIL in Euros and that threatened the US Dollar supremacy. Iraq didn't sell to USA OIL corporations. The Iraq War changed the price of OIL in Iraq to US Dollars and brought the Iraq OIL into Western Big Energy Corporation distribution networks. It profited the Energy corporations to FUEL the War. After the War the Iraq OIL entered the Big Energy Distribution Network to provide huge additional profits. It is only good business for Energy Corporations to promote/market Wars because it is really good for their business. Wait a Minute, holy mackerel, low life, scumbag lobbyists wouldn't be trying to buy Congressmen and women to gin up wars that produce huge profits for Big Energy. Of course they would. That just good marketing, Corporatist style.
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    Possibly true, but I have seen those aspersions being tossed around before. Never seen anybody come close to backing them up. But I am game, give me the facts and proof.
    "...But resist we much, we must and we will much, about that be committed..." --- the right Reverend Alfred Charles "Al" Shaprton, Jr.

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