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  • l never attempted to commit suicide

    36 36.00%
  • l tried to commit suicide once

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  • l tried to commit suicide more than once

    6 6.00%
  • l thought about commiting suicide but never attempted

    33 33.00%
  • l never thought about commiting suicide

    28 28.00%
  • l usually tend to commit suicide but always prevent myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    If some suicidal people use their condition to make everyone either feel bad or give in to their demands then a plain ruthless "I do not give a damn" may do the trick. That is all I am saying.
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    Any suicidal person with difficult nights can PM me. We can talk about it.
    Refer them to the nearest mental health agency. It's not up to you or any other lay person to figure out whether to tell then you don't give a damn or to save then via private messages.

    The mere expression of suicidality means the person is definitely not 100% serious, and potentially as little as 0% serious, but whatever the case my be, refer them to an in-person mental health professional.
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    Re: commiting suicide ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Refer them to the nearest mental health agency. It's not up to you or any other lay person to figure out whether to tell then you don't give a damn or to save then via private messages.

    The mere expression of suicidality means the person is definitely not totally serious, and possibly not at all serious. Whatever the case my be, refer them to an in-person mental health professional.
    Yes, those were my intentions if they were serious. I cannot handle a serious suicidal person nor would I want to. I would have became a therapist if I could bare such pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Yes, those were my intentions if they were serious. I cannot handle a serious suicidal person nor would I want to. I would have became a therapist if I could bare such pressure.
    There isn't much pressure, surprisingly. Therapists are required to petition for involuntary psychiatric hospitalization if they're convinced a patient is serious. When this petition is granted, the local police will typically do the dirty work of detaining a person to bring them in for involuntary treatment. It sucks, but when the alternative is death with a possible negligence lawsuit from bereaved/pissed/greedy family to boot, the procedure is pretty easy to justify and can happen somewhat smoothly in many communities.

    That's your other option, by the way. If you know the person's whereabouts and can contact local law enforcement, ask for a welfare/safety check on the person. They'll swing by and bring the person in if it seems like there's an imminent mental health concern, or leave the person alone if there appears to not be. Then your liability is covered and due diligence was applied.
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    Re: commiting suicide ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    There isn't much pressure, surprisingly. Therapists are required to petition for involuntary psychiatric hospitalization if they're convinced a patient is serious. When this petition is granted, the local police will typically do the dirty work of detaining a person to bring them in for involuntary treatment. It sucks, but when the alternative is death with a possible negligence lawsuit from bereaved/pissed/greedy family to boot, the procedure is pretty easy to justify and can happen somewhat smoothly in many communities.

    That's your other option, by the way. If you know the person's whereabouts and can contact local law enforcement, ask for a welfare/safety check on the person. They'll swing by and bring the person in if it seems like there's an imminent mental health concern, or leave the person alone if there appears to not be. Then your liability is covered and due diligence was applied.
    Are you a therapist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    But hey, I have learnt living with that paranoia.
    If you are paranoid, that doesn't mean nobody is chasing you, GG.

    P.S. I'm not trying to make fun of you, honest.

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    Re: commiting suicide ?

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    A lecturer once told me that suicide is made so as to either make everyone else feel bad about influencing (or not doing enough to stop) suicide, or to manipulate and gain something out of it dramatically. So though your empathy is nice you could be manipulated into being asked for things more than what you could deliver.
    it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem in most cases. it's also like burning everyone else that you care about in a way that never completely heals, and you sort of fade away forever. being remembered like that is something that no one should want.

    however, none of that is really at the forefront of the decision. as i said in another thread about this, describing it to someone who isn't programmed that way is like trying to explain what purple looks like to someone who can't see. the best advice i can give is that if you have this trait, promise yourself that at the darkest hour, you'll seek help before going through with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    not a funny topic but a reality of this life
    With the ME conflict and WW3 on the horizon, I think you won't have to commit suicide, if you are considering one, Medusa. Turkey will be cooked for Christmas.

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    Re: commiting suicide ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Cowardice.
    This is erroneous and demonstrates that you neither understand mental illness nor the etiology of suicide. You might want to educate yourself on this issue.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    Re: commiting suicide ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    not a funny topic but a reality of this life






    you can vote freely ,l didnt click " make vote public "
    I had a hard time in my early teens, so I had considered it lightly from time to time. Never even remotely seriously considered it nor did I ever try.

    Now I would absolutely never do it, no matter how bad things got, because I believe this life is all we have, so no matter how bad it gets, it's always better than the alternative.

    The way I figure it, you have trillions and trillions of years to be dead, but only about 70-90 to be alive.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: commiting suicide ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    There isn't much pressure, surprisingly. Therapists are required to petition for involuntary psychiatric hospitalization if they're convinced a patient is serious. When this petition is granted, the local police will typically do the dirty work of detaining a person to bring them in for involuntary treatment. It sucks, but when the alternative is death with a possible negligence lawsuit from bereaved/pissed/greedy family to boot, the procedure is pretty easy to justify and can happen somewhat smoothly in many communities.

    That's your other option, by the way. If you know the person's whereabouts and can contact local law enforcement, ask for a welfare/safety check on the person. They'll swing by and bring the person in if it seems like there's an imminent mental health concern, or leave the person alone if there appears to not be. Then your liability is covered and due diligence was applied.
    Done all of these things several times. The key here is safety, both for the suicidal person and the treating provider. I would prefer to contact authorities and be WRONG then not and be wrong.
    "Never fear. Him is here" - Captain Chaos (Dom DeLuise), Cannonball Run

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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