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  • l never attempted to commit suicide

    36 36.00%
  • l tried to commit suicide once

    6 6.00%
  • l tried to commit suicide more than once

    6 6.00%
  • l thought about commiting suicide but never attempted

    33 33.00%
  • l never thought about commiting suicide

    28 28.00%
  • l usually tend to commit suicide but always prevent myself

    3 3.00%
  • other

    9 9.00%
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    Re: commiting suicide ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Don't take this as disagreement, but under what circumstances should a loved one intervene and pursue psychiatric treatment, vs. simply respect the wish of the loved one?

    What about if the person who is being told about a person's suicidal intentions is NOT a loved one, but a random stranger, a police officer, a health care provider, et cetera... what should they be expected to do? A good example might be: if a person shows up of their own volition to an emergency room and says "I came here because I want to kill myself," what should happen next?

    It is easy to declare people as having an absolute right to decide the terms of their own lives (I agree, after all), but that doesn't really identify what people are supposed to do in response to people going out of their way to advertise it.
    maybe empathic people should try to convince them to stop attempting to commit suicide

    it is like first aid .not everybody can do it without having some basic knowledge about human
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    Re: commiting suicide ?

    I could never commit suicide...It is against my faith as a Catholic and a mortal sin.
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    Re: commiting suicide ?

    Jr High School was total hell for me and I thought about suicide more than once during that time. I never imagined how I would do it, thought, so I figure it was more of an escapist, shot in the arm pick me up, kind of thing than it was anything else.

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    Re: commiting suicide ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I could never commit suicide...It is against my faith as a Catholic and a mortal sin.
    Don't play all high and mighty NP.....there are plenty of things that you believe in that are against your faith as a Catholic and many mortal sins that you have engaged in....
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    commiting suicide ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    maybe empathic people should try to convince them to stop attempting to commit suicide

    it is like first aid .not everybody can do it without having some basic knowledge about human
    Don't you suppose this has been (and is being) tried?

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    Re: commiting suicide ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Don't you suppose this has been (and is being) tried?
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    Re: commiting suicide ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    There are medications for every level of depression..
    Medications do not work for everyone.

    In many ways, psychiatry is still in its infancy. There are still many people we can't effectively treat with our presently available options.

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    Re: commiting suicide ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    some are born with a self destruct mechanism which can be almost insurmountable at times. the creative, tempestuous personality is especially vulnerable. all i will say is that i have a lot of empathy, and i think that it's absolutely a mistake. understanding this doesn't completely solve the problem, but it's insight that needs to be applied during all dark nights of the soul.
    I am like this, and I know lots of other people like this. I'm a writer, which seems to be one of the most afflicted types. No surprise, really; art and madness runs strong on both sides of my family.

    However, I was granted a bit of genetic mercy: a good enough brain to see it.

    The trick for me (and for some others I know) was really to boil down my social circle to only those who got hives at the mere thought of peer pressure and shaming, throw all of my assumptions about how we're "supposed" to do life out the window, and start from scratch. Just build my entire way of living from the ground up through trial and error.

    It took a few years, and I'm still ceaselessly tinkering with the dials in some areas of life, but I think the inability to conform to "socially condoned" modes of living and interacting with others is a major factor for a lot of creative people with a penchant towards mental disorder.

    Even a lot of "normal" people wither underneath the pressure, over the course of decades. A highly sensitive person just has no chance.

    The degree of departure required is going to vary a lot from one person to the next, but I know a lot of people who have found at least some degree of relief this way.

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    Re: commiting suicide ?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    I am like this, and I know lots of other people like this. I'm a writer, which seems to be one of the most afflicted types. No surprise, really; art and madness runs strong on both sides of my family.

    However, I was granted a bit of genetic mercy: a good enough brain to see it.

    The trick for me (and for some others I know) was really to boil down my social circle to only those who got hives at the mere thought of peer pressure and shaming, throw all of my assumptions about how we're "supposed" to do life out the window, and start from scratch. Just build my entire way of living from the ground up through trial and error.

    It took a few years, and I'm still ceaselessly tinkering with the dials in some areas of life, but I think the inability to conform to "socially condoned" modes of living and interacting with others is a major factor for a lot of creative people with a penchant towards mental disorder.

    Even a lot of "normal" people wither underneath the pressure, over the course of decades. A highly sensitive person just has no chance.

    The degree of departure required is going to vary a lot from one person to the next, but I know a lot of people who have found at least some degree of relief this way.
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    Re: commiting suicide ?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Even a lot of "normal" people wither underneath the pressure, over the course of decades. A highly sensitive person just has no chance.

    The degree of departure required is going to vary a lot from one person to the next, but I know a lot of people who have found at least some degree of relief this way.
    I never had any issues until my late thirties, and when it first started being apparent that I was dealing with depression and/or anxiety, I was taken totally off-guard, never having experienced anything like this before. It took me about 12 years to learn what triggered it, how to handle it, and I found that I had to essentially change many of my views and ways of perceiving the world around me. I had to become much more flexible, much more understanding with myself, and stop fighting it, before it started to become manageable. I still tend to have issues during times of extreme emotional stress, but overall, my ability to cope is much better than it used to be. It doesn't frighten me anymore, the way it used to. I feel great empathy for those who cannot reach a level of understanding and tolerance for it, and it seems that there are many people who can't find that understanding. I think that for me, what helps is that I tend to be pretty highly emotional, but also have a decent balance of cognitive function, so that I can still think relatively clearly, and function at a normal level during those periods of instability. It certainly isn't easy, and there have been times when my strongest impulse was to withdraw from the world completely.
    "God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
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