View Poll Results: REPEAL OBAMACARE

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  • Repeal immediately and completely. Repeal Medicare also.

    9 14.75%
  • Repeal within 2 years. Repeal Medicare also.

    0 0%
  • Repeal it and Medicare in whatever time it takes.

    0 0%
  • Repeal it. Keep Medicare like it is

    17 27.87%
  • Repeal only the individual mandate. Keep Medicare

    3 4.92%
  • Keep the individual mandate. Repeal the rest and medicare also.

    0 0%
  • Keep Obamacare like it is. I love it.

    11 18.03%
  • Keep Obamacare, but NO care for non-citizens.

    0 0%
  • Keep Obamacare, but NO care for illegal aliens.

    4 6.56%
  • Other (specify)

    17 27.87%
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    Re: Repeal obamacare completely

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    the oppression begins next January. Are you ready for it????
    That sounds like it should be narrated by Art Gilmore.

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    Re: Repeal obamacare completely

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    It may be premature, but I have the track records of Medicare and other government-run crap to back it up.
    Oh ?
    So lets see it ....You may change my mind, if true...

    And, who is Art Gilmore ?

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    Re: Repeal obamacare completely

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    So what do you want to do with our current monster? You know the one, it causes most of the bankruptcies in the US and delivers third world results. It has been out of hand for years. What do you wanna do with that one?
    Which "one" is that, exactly?
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    Re: Repeal obamacare completely

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    repeal and replace with single payer.
    Single payer or single borrower? Tell me how (and by who) that would be funded, exactly. The devil is in the details, all plans sound wonderful until you see the actual costs and benefits. Would "single payer" cover eyes and teeth too? That seems to be absent from PPACA since few people ever need health services related to problems with those omitted (rarely used?) body parts.
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    Re: Repeal obamacare completely

    Quit send the money to the insurance companies and pay for healthcare with it. If you are really intersted in how UHC really works, google any civilized country in the world.
    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Single payer or single borrower? Tell me how (and by who) that would be funded, exactly. The devil is in the details, all plans sound wonderful until you see the actual costs and benefits. Would "single payer" cover eyes and teeth too? That seems to be absent from PPACA since few people ever need health services related to problems with those omitted (rarely used?) body parts.
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    Re: Repeal obamacare completely

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Quit send the money to the insurance companies and pay for healthcare with it. If you are really intersted in how UHC really works, google any civilized country in the world.
    PPACA makes that incur a tax penalty - does it not?
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    Re: Repeal obamacare completely

    Obamacare is the best thing that has happened for our people during my lifetime.
    So many Americans suffer from lack of preventative health care or decent medical treatment.

    We have 2 standards of medical care in this country:

    #1 The best treatment on the entire planet for the wealthy and the insured.

    #2 And treatment that is worse than many 3rd world countries and rates below nations such as Cuba, for the uninsured, the poor, and middle class small business owners.

    It is time we close the gap.
    If we can not have universal or single payer, then Obama Care is the best option out there.

    People do not seem to realize how much money will be saved once the poor stop using the emergency room for simple doctor visits.
    Some day I am going to be writing a paper about my recent experiences with cancer.
    For today let me just say that my bill was $108,000.00, but once my insurance company negotiated it down and payed it in full, it was lowered to only $14,500. I did not have to pay one dime. But if I had been poor, or an uninsured small business owner, I would have never got the treatment because the cancer was not diagnosed until after it was removed.

    Hospitals are overrun with people in the emergency room that are charged from 500% to 10,000% more than they should be and can not pay their bills.
    Once this boot on the neck of hospitals is removed, prices will come down dramatically, no matter how you slice it.
    Poor people that are unable to pay their bills are just as much responsible for our out of control medical costs as anything else.
    Once they are allowed to see a doctor instead, or allowed to have preventative care, everything will change.

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    Re: Repeal obamacare completely

    I was talking about as a nation.
    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    PPACA makes that incur a tax penalty - does it not?
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    Re: Repeal obamacare completely

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I was talking about as a nation.
    Yet that was not what the demorats offered us up now was it?

    It never ceases to amaze me that the biggest imaginable mess is accepted simply because people kid themsleves into thinking it is a "first step" toward something wonderful. Why trust those that will not tell you, up front, what the "better deal" that is "comming soon" really is?
    Last edited by ttwtt78640; 08-29-13 at 01:26 PM.
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    Re: Repeal obamacare completely

    A couple of things I disagree with. the first one is our system is not the best in the world, even for the rich and insured. The best would spend a lot more time and energe on prevention. We do have the most profitable. They dont realize how much money will be saved because they are told the opposite by the RW leaders, the ER's are just a small part of the problme. I guess I just completely agree with you, and then some.
    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    Obamacare is the best thing that has happened for our people during my lifetime.
    So many Americans suffer from lack of preventative health care or decent medical treatment.

    We have 2 standards of medical care in this country.
    The best treatment on the entire planet for the wealthy and the insured.
    And treatment that is worse than many 3rd world countries and rates below nations such as Cuba, for the uninsured, the poor, and middle class small business owners.

    It is time we close the gap.
    If we can not have universal or single payer, then Obama Care is the best option out there.

    People do not seem to realize how much money will be saved once the poor stop using the emergency room for simple doctor visits.
    Some day I am going to be writing a paper about my recent experiences with cancer.
    For today let me just say that my bill was $108,000.00, but once my insurance company negotiated it down and payed it in full, it was lowered to only $14,500. I did not have to pay one dime. But if I had been poor, or an uninsured small business owner, I would have never got the treatment because the cancer was not diagnosed until after it was removed.

    Hospitals are overrun with people in the emergency room that are charged from 500% to 10,000% more than they should be and can not pay their bills.
    Once this boot on the neck of hospitals is removed, prices will come down dramatically, no matter how you slice it.
    Poor people that are unable to pay their bills is just as much responsible for our out of control medical costs as anything else.
    Once they are allowed to see a doctor instead or allowed to have preventative care, everything will change.
    God Bless the Marine Corps.

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