View Poll Results: REPEAL OBAMACARE

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  • Repeal immediately and completely. Repeal Medicare also.

    9 14.75%
  • Repeal within 2 years. Repeal Medicare also.

    0 0%
  • Repeal it and Medicare in whatever time it takes.

    0 0%
  • Repeal it. Keep Medicare like it is

    17 27.87%
  • Repeal only the individual mandate. Keep Medicare

    3 4.92%
  • Keep the individual mandate. Repeal the rest and medicare also.

    0 0%
  • Keep Obamacare like it is. I love it.

    11 18.03%
  • Keep Obamacare, but NO care for non-citizens.

    0 0%
  • Keep Obamacare, but NO care for illegal aliens.

    4 6.56%
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    17 27.87%
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Thread: Repeal obamacare completely

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    Re: Repeal obamacare completely

    I think it would be a good idea if we had an election over this issue.

    Wait a minute--WE ALREADY DID. Obamacare won and is here to stay. Get over it already.
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    Re: Repeal obamacare completely

    We should have brand-new voter ID laws every two years. Your current ID with a picture is not good enough. New driver's licenses every two years would be a nice source of income. Fraud would be prevented for citizens who become non-citizens.

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    Re: Repeal obamacare completely

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    Are you in favor of destroying this monster before it gets out of hand?

    Remember, the oppression begins next January. Are you ready for it????
    It seems pretty foolhardy to repeal something that 1) has high satisfaction in places where it has been deployed;

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    2) was a long time coming;

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    and 3) was designed by Conservatives.

    How the Heritage Foundation, a Conservative Think Tank, Promoted the Individual Mandate - Forbes

    Regressives seem to get their panties in a bunch at every time in history that we are poised to progress. Then again, it is the party of the silly and stupid.... how else would they shoot themselves in the foot to walk away from at least 6 senate election that they would have won if they could only put up a candidate with an IQ north of 100, yet they could not perform?

    Cons need to let go of this and move on. Get a idea for once.
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    Re: Repeal obamacare completely

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Emergency room treatment for everyone. Just negotiate or get insurance.
    Yes police. For obvious reasons
    Yes firemen. Because we can't fight fires ourselves.
    Yes car insurance -- just not for everyone because everyone can't drive.

    It already takes a helluva lot of ammo to live in your world, problem is, you people can't defend yourselves.
    See, you think this way because you only think of yourself and you "believe" that those are the social services that "YOU" might need.

    Me, I can put out a fire a hell of a lot better than I can cut out my own colon cancer.

    I'm a little shocked at your value for car insurance. Personally, I can replace a car.
    But if I needed $2,000,000.00 for a serious ailment, I'd be screwed.

    Let me ask you this... your for no treatment to the poor in emergency rooms.
    But what if your mother or daughter had a heart attack while sun bathing alone?
    No ID. No insurance card.
    What if they let her flop around on the sidewalk like a dying fish?
    Until she stank.
    Would you say your mom got what she deserved?

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    Re: Repeal obamacare completely

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Under Obamacare, a family of four making $88K/year is eligible for assistance. Families making $150K/year are also eligible if they have a lot of kids. That doesn't seem right to me. I also don't like the idea of forcing people to buy something whether they want it or not.
    But we were discussing what was taking place prior to Obama-Care.
    Prior to Obama-Care, for the uninsured, medicaid is all there is. And the cut off is extremely low.
    Not so low if you have a child. But if you are single its pathetic.
    And if you are a single small business owner that owns a home, you can not even qualify if you make 50 dollars a year.

    Obama-Care is not for the people on medicaid.
    It is for the people caught in between affordability and medicaid.

    I like the Obama-Care limits. I think it is about time that the super wealthy give something back to the middle class.
    But I can agree they are a tad high. I'd compromise for lower values.
    I am an advocate for those that work hard, do all they possibly can, but can not afford it and are allowed to die and suffer.
    So long as that group gets help, I am fine with lowering the eligibility.

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    Re: Repeal obamacare completely

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Under Obamacare, a family of four making $88K/year is eligible for assistance.
    They get a $1500 tax break, and only if they are not eligible for insurance from their employer.

    If these individuals are not eligible because they are sole proprietors, they're already able to take their health insurance costs off their taxes -- unless, of course, the insurance agencies refuse to cover them in the first place, because of their age. Oh, wait, I mean "pre-existing conditions."


    Families making $150K/year are also eligible if they have a lot of kids.
    You mean, if they have twelve children. And they get a $2000 tax break from a $13,000 insurance bill. And only if no employer insurance is available.


    I also don't like the idea of forcing people to buy something whether they want it or not.
    So, I guess you won't get a mortgage, since the banks force you to get insurance. Or, you refuse to live in a state where drivers are required to have insurance.

    And, of course, you could just not get it, and pay the penalty. Your hypothetical family of four will get a $600 tax penalty.

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    Re: Repeal obamacare completely

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Why should I have to pay for their healthcare if they dont want to?
    Because its a reality of the human condition they you and everybody else will at some point get sick or injured. At that point you in all likelihood will show up at your friendly neighborhood emergency room where you will receive expensive treatment with or without the ability to pay. If you do not have the ability to pay, the costs of your treatment will be passed on to others in the form of unfair higher costs in order to subsidize your treatment. To keep this from happening the conservative think tank, The Heritage Foundation, came up with the idea that everyone should be required by law to have healthcare coverage in advance. Ths idea was stolen by the Obama Administration and included in the healthcare law. Then shockingly conservatives sued the federal government unsuccessfully in court under the claim that their own idea that he stole violated the US Constitution. This led me to conclude a lot of (which is not to say all) conservatives simply learn the teams agenda and embrace it without having any true convictions of their own, think their own ideas are unconstitutional or they opposed healthcare reform for reasons other than their official stated claim.
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    Re: Repeal obamacare completely

    Americans should have to state whether they want Obamacare. Feed it to the NSA databank.
    If they don't want it, and insist on not buying health insurance, they should not be cared for on anybody's dime at the emergency room.

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    Re: Repeal obamacare completely

    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    if you are a single small business owner that owns a home, you can not even qualify if you make 50 dollars a year.
    even if you just bought the home and have very little equity?





    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    I like the Obama-Care limits.............But I can agree they are a tad high. I'd compromise for lower values.
    I am an advocate for those that work hard, do all they possibly can, but can not afford it and are allowed to die and suffer.
    So long as that group gets help, I am fine with lowering the eligibility.
    I don't think the government should be assisting the upper-middle class.





    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    I think it is about time that the super wealthy give something back to the middle class.
    The taxes in Obamacare apply to everyone, not just the super wealthy. That's one of the reasons why the unions, who previously supported Obamacare, are now turning against it. It also raises premiums.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Repeal obamacare completely

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    So, I guess you won't get a mortgage, since the banks force you to get insurance. Or, you refuse to live in a state where drivers are required to have insurance.
    No one is forced to buy a house or a car.





    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    And, of course, you could just not get it, and pay the penalty. Your hypothetical family of four will get a $600 tax penalty.
    Where did you get that # from? According to Forbes and Aetna, it would start at $880 and go up to $2200.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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