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Thread: Should foreign language/s be required learning in American schools?

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    Re: Should foreign language/s be required learning in American schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Ah, more of the lame. Not yet a bit of reasoning to support your initial claim, just more failed attacks.
    but you said my initial claim was a lame attack? Unless you're talking about my OP, which all your response was was "Hell no". Not much to argue about. Nothing for me to give support in defense against. Yours was nothing but an opinion. To which I offered a book hallmarked for its conveying a message. What message? Coping with change. Your response "hell no" could easily be countered and effectively refuted with a very firm "Hell Yes" but that would do little to further the conversation.

    The point of my reading suggestion was to illustrate the fact that change is inevitable and that sometimes people cling to old habits, patterns, and thoughts in an attempt to prevent the inevitable. All this does is create suffering.

    So, as you see, I wasn't attacking you but helping you, helping you understand that the idea that people shouldn't learn Spanish, which is the language which will be most beneficial to Americans in the future is erroneous.

    The second was a book of self empowerment to help you overcome your sense of victim-hood which is apparent by your ready accusation of being under attack rather than seeing my gentle and witty response for what it was, a lighthearted, good-nature ribbing, that often is all that is needed for most to make a self discovery.

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    Re: Should foreign language/s be required learning in American schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Ha, so true. In Finland only old people (interestingly enough, these were usually bus drivers) didn't speak English.


    the education system in finland must be a model for the other countries
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    Re: Should foreign language/s be required learning in American schools?

    I'm fine with people having to get a basic grounding in a foreign language, just like they have to get a basic grounding in many other subjects. One year ought to be plenty and then voluntary to go further.
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    Re: Should foreign language/s be required learning in American schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    the education system in finland must be a model for the other countries
    Although they certainly have their own problems to complain about, Scandinavian countries tend to be the model in a lot of things these days.

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    Re: Should foreign language/s be required learning in American schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    io parlo italiano cosi cosi anche desidero far progredire

    hope it is true ,l may need to join an italian dp
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    Re: Should foreign language/s be required learning in American schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Teaching history is important, particularly in a Democracy. I agree that advanced mathematics should not be required for high school graduation. High school should teach basic usable knowledge. That should be the (only) requirement to graduate. Advanced education is what colleges, universities, tech-school, military etc are for.

    3,000,000 teens drop out of school every year.


    Something's wrong with the system. The required standardized testing or else a student cannot advance or graduate - and with schools punished for bad testing results - leads to not only students dropping out seeing no point to continue, but also is huge incentive for schools to tacitly want students doing poorly to dropout so they are not counted in the test results.
    So the problem is that high school is too hard? I don't buy that for a second. ANYBODY who puts in a little effort can graduate from high school.

    High school dropouts do so because they are either 1.) Lazy or 2.) Have an attitude problem or 3.) Got pregnant.

    Adding a Spanish requirement isn't going to change those things.

    Also, just out of curiosity, why do you say learning history is important in a democracy (as opposed to another form of government)?

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    Re: Should foreign language/s be required learning in American schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Says who? If anything, statistics tend to show that the past is a poor predictor of future events.

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    Perhaps we should only stick with Arithmetic.
    No! Wrong! Ahh!

    If anything, we should require MORE math be taught. At least an intermediate understanding of Calculus, IMO.

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    Re: Should foreign language/s be required learning in American schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Every hour spent teaching one thing is an hour something else is not taught.

    SO... the question is what do you want NOT taught if learning a foreign language is required?
    Research shows us that one's ability to learn a foreign language is greater at a younger age. On the other hand, one can learn history or science at any age. Since we don't know who will need to know Spanish (or any other language) in adulthood, it makes the most sense to teach all of our kids early on.

    I also support English immersion programs for Mexican kids.

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    Re: Should foreign language/s be required learning in American schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I'm fine with people having to get a basic grounding in a foreign language, just like they have to get a basic grounding in many other subjects. One year ought to be plenty and then voluntary to go further.
    One year of Spanish at an American public high school, unfortunately, won't even prepare a student enough to be able to pick up the phone and order a pizza in that language.

    We really suck at teaching foreign languages.

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    Re: Should foreign language/s be required learning in American schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    The point of my reading suggestion was to illustrate the fact that change is inevitable and that sometimes people cling to old habits, patterns, and thoughts in an attempt to prevent the inevitable. All this does is create suffering.
    Having a nation of people learn the language that most modern day immigrants use, rather than pushing those immigrants to learn the language that is already in place, is both wrong headed and damaging to those immigrants.

    The rest of your post is just more of the snotty lame attack stuff. Trying to place a certain character on someone rather than actually discussing a topic. You can spin it all day, it still fails, and is still transparent. You should stick to the subject rather than the person.
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