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Thread: Should foreign language/s be required learning in American schools?

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    Re: Should foreign language/s be required learning in American schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    So it would be much easier to teach the kids something that might benefit them in their future (programming languages) if it must be force upon them, than some other language that most will never use.



    Hell no.
    I don't see it as an either/or decision. Computer languages are useful. I learned BASIC when I was in elementary school, and I went to a public school in Colorado. We had a forward-thinking principal who got it put in the curriculum. Very glad for that.

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    Re: Should foreign language/s be required learning in American schools?

    It should be required. Two years of instruction was required at my high school (although most people took the whole four) and I'm better for it. Not only is it just good for the modern world, but it helped me understand English better.

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    Re: Should foreign language/s be required learning in American schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I don't see it as an either/or decision. Computer languages are useful. I learned BASIC when I was in elementary school, and I went to a public school in Colorado. We had a forward-thinking principal who got it put in the curriculum. Very glad for that.
    I think that if it is to be required, it should be computer stuff. Let languages be electives. As I said before, most of the kids that take them never use them. I know hundreds of kids that took french when I was in high school, not a one of them has ever been nor will ever go there, or anywhere that it is spoken. Wasted time.
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    Re: Should foreign language/s be required learning in American schools?

    Lame attack. I still stand by my 'hell no!' in terms of forcing people to learn spanish. You get all the immigrants to learn english first, then we can talk.
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    Re: Should foreign language/s be required learning in American schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    We should learn the languages that would make us most able to deal with the world around us. For example, Scandinavians all learn English, because simply put the world's most powerful economy speaks English. To Scandinavians it's not a big deal...it's just good common sense. Likewise I think we should teach our children Spanish and of course Mandarin.
    You are correct about Scandinavia - my grandfather did not learn English in school, he learned German, because at that time, Germany was more influential to Sweden than England/USA. Nowadays, very few Swedes learn German but every person in the country can speak English.

    In fact, if you're a Swede living in Sweden and you speak poor English, other Swedes will think you're stupid or some kind of dinosaur. Can you imagine if we had such an attitude here in the USA? People like me, who can speak 3 languages, would think most of my peers were a bunch of idiots!

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    Re: Should foreign language/s be required learning in American schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    I think that if it is to be required, it should be computer stuff. Let languages be electives. As I said before, most of the kids that take them never use them. I know hundreds of kids that took french when I was in high school, not a one of them has ever been nor will ever go there, or anywhere that it is spoken. Wasted time.
    So why not require Spanish?

    Not everyone is going to use computer languages either. Not to mention that computer languages change.

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    Re: Should foreign language/s be required learning in American schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Lame attack. I still stand by my 'hell no!' in terms of forcing people to learn spanish. You get all the immigrants to learn english first, then we can talk.
    It wasn't attack. I was just offering a suggestion to help you cope...

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    Re: Should foreign language/s be required learning in American schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    If you really do want to learn, this site is fantastic, and it's only like 10 bucks. I can't speak highly enough about it. It's better than private classes, better than Rosetta Stone, better than any other way I know how to learn a language.

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    dp is not such a site l think
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    Re: Should foreign language/s be required learning in American schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Which is why it's so impressive to me that so many Chinese people can speak English. Not to mention the Japanese. It must be just as difficult for them to learn English as it is for us to learn Japanese, yet nearly the entire country is at least somewhat proficient.
    Hm, maybe Asian languages are indeed more complex than English, so it's easier for them to learn English than for us to learn Chinese or Japanese? I don't know. But I noticed many East Asiens have seriously troubles with the pronunciation of European languages, even when they're very good on grammar and vocabulary.

    I've always been interested in learning German. It's somewhat similar to Swedish, so I think it would be easier to learn, however you have more verb tenses and genders to remember. Swedish is more simple, as I think Swedish people are more simple in general.

    Then I have always wanted to learn French, because there is a language that is easy in every way a language can possibly be easy. I already speak Spanish, so I know a Latin language, plus English.... so I basically already have the entire French vocabulary in my brain, it's just to learn the syntax.
    Yes! =) I know this from my experience with Dutch, which is really very similar to German. But that similarity can be treacherous ... I've spent a lot of time in the Netherlands and with my Dutch friends, so I understand most of what they're saying in Dutch, but whenever I try to speak a little, I do it totally wrong and basically just speak German with a Dutch accent, *just because* it seems so similar ... but actually is more different.

    I image that can happen too when you speak Spanish and learn French ... easy to mix it up when it's too similar.

    It's my plan to learn Spanish eventually ... due to my knowledge of French, I understand a lot of it when I see it written, but it's much more difficult for me to understand spoken Spanish.

    I think Chinese would be such a huge investment, that unless I plan to move to China for some reason, I don't think I will able to do it.
    Yeah, same for me ... or Arabic. Horribly difficult, because they don't write vowels in their written language, but most of the grammar depends on vowels. And even if you manage that, you have the problem that hardly any Arab actually speaks "high Arabic"... oh my.

    So no, I guess my next project would be Spanish. Or maybe getting into the Polish a language a little more, after I had a *very* basic introduction at college (for a European language, it's ridiculously complex, IMO).
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