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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Clearly one of the large variables here, since we are measuring individual human interactions, is the individual themselves. Because we can't say someone acted differently between individual 1) and 2) when the didn't didn't even interact with them
    Re-read your post slowly (I chose the part that I interpreted to be the heart of your post), read it from the perspective of someone not in your head with attention to grammar and syntax, because the result is coming across as gibberish.

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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Re-read your post slowly (I chose the part that I interpreted to be the heart of your post), read it from the perspective of someone not in your head with attention to grammar and syntax, because the result is coming across as gibberish.
    excuse the typos: "when the(y) didn't even interact with them".

    What I am pointing out is that you are trying to draw an inference from the differences between the two interactions (the one between the white guy and the one between the black guy). The reason this is problematic is you can't be sure there was actually a difference. Because they are not the same individual (their motives, thoughts, and life experiences are all different and would go into shaping such behavior). For all we know, the person who called the cops one the black kid would have called the cops on the white kid, as well.

    It's very simple

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    Re: Is this racist?

    I voted yes but didn't watch the video.
    If you have to ask, the answer is probably yes.

    Similarly, "I'm not racist, but..." is invariably followed by something racist.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I voted yes but didn't watch the video.
    If you have to ask, the answer is probably yes.
    Is the depiction of Apu racist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Similarly, "I'm not racist, but..." is invariably followed by something racist.
    DP would, I think, make you proud today. Not only did nobody here say "I'm not a racist, but..", there wasn't even the obligatory "It's okay, I can say black people are inferior because I have a black friend."

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    Re: Is this racist?

    The show was edited obviously and to come to any conclusion is to take the bate of the writers. If this was a study linked too by a poster the very pseudoscience nature of the study would be ripped to pieces. Just because this was on tv makes things no different. This wasnt a real study at all therefor no real conclusion can be made from this piece of entertainment.

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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    The show was edited obviously and to come to any conclusion is to take the bate of the writers. If this was a study linked too by a poster the very pseudoscience nature of the study would be ripped to pieces. Just because this was on tv makes things no different. This wasnt a real study at all therefor no real conclusion can be made from this piece of entertainment.
    Well nobody (I really, really hope) actually thinks the show is legit. It's just a discussion piece, as in "Given that the following actually happened as is, is this racism?"

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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    I posted this video on another thread, but I think it deserves its own discussion.

    This is a direct, yes-or-no question: Does racism occur in this video?

    /shrug don't know, don't care. If I had seen either stealing it, would of called the cops. But like usual in these things, notice the differences in dress and appearance of the two. White guy, jeans, regular sized T-shirt, hat on backwards while working. Black guy, pants sagging, oversized shirt, hat on crooked like gangbanger style. Hmm, which would draw more attention? Try dressing the white guy the same as the black guy and then see what happens. Is it really the persons race or the social perception of the way they are dressed?
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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    /shrug don't know, don't care. If I had seen either stealing it, would of called the cops. But like usual in these things, notice the differences in dress and appearance of the two. White guy, jeans, regular sized T-shirt, hat on backwards while working. Black guy, pants sagging, oversized shirt, hat on crooked like gangbanger style. Hmm, which would draw more attention? Try dressing the white guy the same as the black guy and then see what happens. Is it really the persons race or the social perception of the way they are dressed?
    That's right, the black kid's hat was crooked.

    That must be it.

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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Well nobody (I really, really hope) actually thinks the show is legit. It's just a discussion piece, as in "Given that the following actually happened as is, is this racism?"
    There are definitely some people that would judge a situation like that on the looks of the person using tools to liberate a bike.

    I bet though that if you put myself in place of the white kid that no one would bother to address me (at least of those people in the video)that they would have just called the cops and kept their distance. My skin is pretty damn white, but I also have long hair and wouldnt be dressed as neatly as those people in the park. Hell walking through parking lots leads too people locking their car doors until Im a safe distance away. Its not because I am white its because I am large and a metalhead.

    Exchange that clean looking white kid with a metalhead his same age and they would have been calling the cops more often. Plus that black kid didnt look like a bad kid at all. Put him in some gang looking costume and I doubt any of those park goers would have actually spoke to the kid, a secret phone call would have been all of what those wimpy looking people would have done.


    But without talking to the people form the video in length we have no idea why they were saying anything to the black kid at all. As far as we know they thought as I did that he looked like a good kid making a stupid decision. The element alone could turn the results on their head and mean that the park goers were actually trying to help the black kid and didnt care at all about the white kid.


    This all turns in a big what if and that is why I dismiss things like this as bs.

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    Re: Is this racist?

    BTW if I came upon someone trying to steal such a lame department store bike I would just laugh at them.

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