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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    There's no question that some forms of profiling are racist. (Using my personal definition of racism.) The point is that, in the case of this video, I personally don't think racism was involved. The FACT that blacks commit far more robberies than whites can't be denied. If we're going to say that we have to ignore that? What kind of sense does that make? I'll answer for you: none at all.

    It may be politically incorrect to profile, but that's all it is: politically incorrect.

    There's a serial killer in the neighborhood. Let's ask law enforcement to spend equal resources investigating the 86-year-old grandmother as they spend on all the rest. Politically correct, don'tcha know...
    Actually, the "fact" that blacks commit more robberies can be denied. Or at least argued

    Think about it. If, as the video demonstrates, people are more likely to report a black person committing a robbery than a white person doing the same, doesn't it make sense that would lead to more black people being arrested and convicted of robbery?
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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Given that the video is accurate, it's reasonable to assume that the witnesses felt the actions (or presence, or whatever) of the black thief were worse and worthy of response than those of the white thief, even as the actions were identical.

    Personally, I thought it was clever that they made one thief wear a blue shirt and the other a red shirt as men and women reach each color as aggressive differently.
    Good observation. Why didn't they have both wearing the IDENTICAL clothes, rather than having one wearing basically a red flag?

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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Good observation. Why didn't they have both wearing the IDENTICAL clothes, rather than having one wearing basically a red flag?
    Because if both had been wearing red shirts only the men would have been influenced by that as an aggressive factor (as emotional reactions to color goes), while if they had both been wearing blue only women would have perceived that as aggressive.

    Given that, a neutral color would probably have been more sensible.

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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Oy vey, Maggie, the two people in that video were acting the same. Same dress, same dodgy behavior. Yet two entirely different reactions were given.
    They were NOT dressed "the same." A good question is why? Why not identical clothing? Why the two whites in soft blue and the black in blazing red? Notice the cap difference too!

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    Re: Is this racist?

    They also have the white male wearing a good-guy crisp white cap.

    This clearly was manipulated to a desired result. Or at least seems so.

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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Once you realize this is done over and over again, making it much harder to be merely related to those types of quirks, it becomes clearly that we do in fact act according to race, and that this reaction has real consequences, mostly detrimental to the minority.
    Well - speak for the others . . . I wouldn't have been involved with anyone because I wouldn't have noticed. I don't make a habit of talking to strangers long enough to determine what they're doing, and if they should be doing it.

    There are a lot more people like me who walked by and gave no notice. . . and instead, these few who were involved to any degree will be labeled as racist - and unfortunately, some people would label me and any other white person as one, too, no matter what, purely because we share one trait. . . . and that pisses me off.

    Back to group appeasement theories - if they had one white person stand up and make a stink with #1 or #3 - would others have joined in? I think they would have. It would have been interesting to find out.

    Again - I'm discussing theories that are applied to social standards to understand all the many ways in which humans work. I'm not just focusing on the racist aspect of things. . .and that shouldn't be construed as anything other than taking a quantitative approach to examining the entire situation.
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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    They were NOT dressed "the same." A good question is why? Why not identical clothing? Why the two whites in soft blue and the black in blazing red? Notice the cap difference too!
    I know, and personally I think they both should have worn the same neutral colors. But to say that the different colored shirts skewed all the results is really reaching. What's important is that neither of the thieves looked like they were on their way to white collar job interviews.

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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Doesn't it? You act against someone based on race, isn't that really racism?
    No.

    In my view, and perhaps you hold a different view, racism requires a certain level of irrational behaviour that is driven solely by a dislike for a person's race. It would be racism, in my view, to be the white owner of a store and deny blacks to shop there - that's just not good business and hurting yourself irrationally. It would not be racism, however, in my view, to be the white owner of a store and keep a close watch on young black male customers because in the past you've had trouble with young black males shoplifting or holding you up. That's just being smart and protecting your property and your interests.
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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Given that the video is accurate, it's reasonable to assume that the witnesses felt the actions (or presence, or whatever) of the black thief were worse and worthy of response than those of the white thief, even as the actions were identical.
    they're not even the same people, genius ....

    The people reacting to the white kid don't even come into contact with the black kid, and vice versa.

    See how your stupid video leads to stupid views and opinions?

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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    they're not even the same people, genius ....
    Yes they are.

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