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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I know!! Don't you just love that name?? Boo. I mean who could get mad at Boo??
    I dunno. Casper couldn't make himself even say the word. Boo Radley was actually a very mysterious character in To Kill a Mokingbird. He was feared by many. A guiet introvert kind of guy up front but a real good guy underneath.

    Yeah, we love our Boo.

    You hear that Boo?!?!? You ol' dreamer, you.

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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Please. I'm not saying anyone Googled anything. I'm saying the statistics bear out my position...that it's profiling and not racism. One doesn't have to Google to know the truth of crime statistics in this country. At least most of us don't. I didn't know them until I Googled . . . but I'd heard, shall we say, rumors?? The statistics are overwhelming. You know that . . . you'd just rather ignore statistics and cry racism.
    So basically what you're saying is that statistics and profiling mean that a white person acting extremely suspiciously must not be doing anything wrong. Am I hearing you correctly?

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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Please. I'm not saying anyone Googled anything. I'm saying the statistics bear out my position...that it's profiling and not racism. One doesn't have to Google to know the truth of crime statistics in this country. At least most of us don't. I didn't know them until I Googled . . . but I'd heard, shall we say, rumors?? The statistics are overwhelming. You know that . . . you'd just rather ignore statistics and cry racism.
    Don't have to Google. Just turn on the 6:00 news.

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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    So basically what you're saying is that statistics and profiling mean that a white person acting extremely suspiciously must not be doing anything wrong. Am I hearing you correctly?
    You are really working hard for that stretch.
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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    You are really working hard for that stretch.
    Hey, I bring up the fact that two people dressed the same and acted equally suspiciously and the only thing she can respond with is crime statistics. At first I thought she was avoiding the question, but now I'm thinking she was actually answering it.

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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I fail to see a difference. But . . . whatever floats your boat.
    I thought this might help:

    In short, racial profiling is biased, because:

    1) It is based on misunderstanding the scientific theory of probability.

    2) It contradicts the mission of the justice system, which has two purposes: First, to punish the guilty, and second, to protect the innocent. Racial profiling has violated the principle of protecting innocent individuals by turning thousands of innocent people across the country into the victims.

    3) It creates a self fulfilling prophecy, because when officers only focus on certain categories of individuals (yes, they will catch some criminals among them), they will also bypass many criminals about whom they do not do profiling.


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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Hey, I bring up the fact that two people dressed the same and acted equally suspiciously and the only thing she can respond with is crime statistics. At first I thought she was avoiding the question, but now I'm thinking she was actually answering it.
    you're still comparing the reactions of two different groups of people (which says nothing about possible and likely editing of the material). For instance notice that in the second group, a significant number of those pictured making an issue of the scene are bikers, while in the first video no bikers are represented.

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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    you're still comparing the reactions of two different groups of people (which says nothing about possible and likely editing of the material). For instance notice that in the second group, a significant number of those pictured making an issue of the scene are bikers, while in the first video no bikers are represented.
    As someone else pointed out these kinds of studies aren't exactly new, and they turn up the same results over and over again, which is that reactions to the black person dressing and behaving the same garners more suspicion. If this were an isolated study I'd agree with you, but it's not.

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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    you're still comparing the reactions of two different groups of people (which says nothing about possible and likely editing of the material). For instance notice that in the second group, a significant number of those pictured making an issue of the scene are bikers, while in the first video no bikers are represented.
    Symantics. We all get the point of the video, edited or not. I don't think anyone would argue with, a black person cutting a bike lock, would arouse more suspicion than the white guy.

    The question is, is it racist? I think it is definitely a profiling based on learned behaviors, awareness and experience. It has also been justified with overwhelming statistics.

    But is it racist? I honestly don't know. It's not racist to me. It's just common sense. But to the next guy, that common sense might be considered racist. I dunno.

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    Re: Is this racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    As someone else pointed out these kinds of studies aren't exactly new, and they turn up the same results over and over again, which is that reactions to the black person dressing and behaving the same garners more suspicion.
    lol @ calling this a study. Look, I'm not arguing racism doesn't exist, or even that none of these people are racist. I am saying drawing any type of conclusion from this is foolish. Because you are comparing the reaction of two separate individuals under two distinct circumstances. Not to mention the issues with selective editing

    If this were an isolated study I'd agree with you, but it's not.
    then post something academic oriented with actual merit. Not some bozo segment from trashtv.com

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