View Poll Results: What do you think of the laws banning atheist from some offices?

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  • Iím against it

    74 67.89%
  • it violates the constitution and should be removed

    70 64.22%
  • itís discrimination

    61 55.96%
  • itís bigotry

    47 43.12%
  • itís disgusting

    36 33.03%
  • I support this

    7 6.42%
  • it does NOT violate the constitution and should stand

    6 5.50%
  • itís NOT discrimination

    2 1.83%
  • itís NOT bigotry

    4 3.67%
  • itís righteousness

    6 5.50%
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Thread: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Correct, but the current interpretation restricts peoples freedom to practice, if said practice occurs on public property.
    You can go to the park, city hall, courthouse steps or any other public property when it is open to the public and pray. You can even bring some friends. Kids can pray in school between classes and recess etc. When the teacher leads the prayer then it forces all students to do it or face embarassment or worse and that is unconstitutional government endorsement of a particular religion. The difference is that when particular religions are encouraged or religious observation is tax payer funded it is unconstituional. Its perfectly reasonable and not that complicated if you look at the actual facts of the court cases.

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    You can go to the park, city hall, courthouse steps or any other public property when it is open to the public and pray. You can even bring some friends. Kids can pray in school between classes and recess etc. When the teacher leads the prayer then it forces all students to do it or face embarassment or worse and that is unconstitutional government endorsement of a particular religion. The difference is that when particular religions are encouraged or religious observation is tax payer funded it is unconstituional. Its perfectly reasonable and not that complicated if you look at the actual facts of the court cases.
    If that was as far as it went, I would have no issue with the separation of church and state.
    I voted on the poll that it would be discrimination to hold a politician's religion, or lack there of, against them.
    I voted that way because atheism is a form of religion, it's more vocal members are just as passionate about their beliefs,
    as any other religious person,(maybe more so).
    I will use as an example, the vigorous defense of atheist in this very thread.

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    If that was as far as it went, I would have no issue with the separation of church and state.
    I voted on the poll that it would be discrimination to hold a politician's religion, or lack there of, against them.
    I voted that way because atheism is a form of religion, it's more vocal members are just as passionate about their beliefs,
    as any other religious person,(maybe more so).
    I will use as an example, the vigorous defense of atheist in this very thread.
    Atheism is a form of religion?? That is absolute deluded misinformed propaganda based rubbish.

    Just because I do not accept any religion, and the claims they make does not mean that my nonacceptance itself is a religion. It is quite simply disbelief. I disbelieve in alien visitations and ghosts as well, does this mean that in your eyes they are religions too?
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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    Atheism is a form of religion?? That is absolute deluded misinformed propaganda based rubbish.

    Just because I do not accept any religion, and the claims they make does not mean that my nonacceptance itself is a religion. It is quite simply disbelief. I disbelieve in alien visitations and ghosts as well, does this mean that in your eyes they are religions too?
    Claiming atheism is religion = easiest way to troll atheists ever.

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    Atheism is a form of religion?? That is absolute deluded misinformed propaganda based rubbish.

    Just because I do not accept any religion, and the claims they make does not mean that my nonacceptance itself is a religion. It is quite simply disbelief. I disbelieve in alien visitations and ghosts as well, does this mean that in your eyes they are religions too?
    And yet you defend your non acceptance with passion, kind of like a religious person would if their faith was questioned.

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    And yet you defend your non acceptance with passion, kind of like a religious person would if their faith was questioned.
    No if there is any hint of "passion" it is just to clear up any misconceptions. I may perhaps be outspoken about being misrepresented and having positions I do not take unduly glommed upon me, but this does not mean the position itself is based on passion, My disbelief in god just is, there is no emotion involved in my not believing. It is not something I have control over, it is just an underlying part of who I am - my non belief just is.

    There is however emotion involved when people assign false attributes to me. regardless of what they are. So I am just clearing the air and your misconceptions although you do seem quite wedded to them, false or not.

    Passion does not equal religion either btw. I am passionate about marine invertebrates. so I suppose that is a religion as well?
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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Just to answer the original thread title, no business should discriminate against anyone for their beliefs regardless of what those beliefs are. However I don't think the federal government should have any right to tell someone who they can or cannot hire.
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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    Atheism is a form of religion?? That is absolute deluded misinformed propaganda based rubbish.

    Just because I do not accept any religion, and the claims they make does not mean that my nonacceptance itself is a religion. It is quite simply disbelief. I disbelieve in alien visitations and ghosts as well, does this mean that in your eyes they are religions too?
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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    If that was as far as it went, I would have no issue with the separation of church and state.
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    That is as far as it goes.
    Therefore, since the world has still/Much good, but much less good than ill,
    And while the sun and moon endure/Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
    I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Then there are those like myself, who neither believe nor disbelieve.
    Agnostic. I think a little introspection would determine that most of us have a streak of agnosticism, despite our declared belief that there is/is not a god. How can anyone know for sure?
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