View Poll Results: What do you think of the laws banning atheist from some offices?

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  • Iím against it

    74 67.89%
  • it violates the constitution and should be removed

    70 64.22%
  • itís discrimination

    61 55.96%
  • itís bigotry

    47 43.12%
  • itís disgusting

    36 33.03%
  • I support this

    7 6.42%
  • it does NOT violate the constitution and should stand

    6 5.50%
  • itís NOT discrimination

    2 1.83%
  • itís NOT bigotry

    4 3.67%
  • itís righteousness

    6 5.50%
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Thread: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I think many have misunderstood my statements.
    This has nothing to do with a person's morality, but the base on which that morality rest.
    Any measurement can only be in reference to something.
    Our laws, for the most part can be traced back the religious rules.
    No, they can be traced back to what insured our survival as a social animal. Empathy is one of those traits that emerged that protected our social well being, and that is the basis of our core morality.
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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    No, they can be traced back to what insured our survival as a social animal. Empathy is one of those traits that emerged that protected our social well being, and that is the basis of our core morality.
    You are correct, the laws of nature, and the ones we choose to limit to participate in society, are somewhat subjective.
    Religion was one attempt to try and codify these patterns, and was justified by saying things are right or wrong, "Because GOD says so".

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Interesting how Obama picks and chooses which laws he will enforce and ignore.
    All administrations prioritize their enforcement duties. IMO that is fine as long as they do what they say they will do during the campaign.

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
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    Atheism is the currently endorsed religion of the federal Government,....
    That's why we force kids to recite a pledge mentioning god, put a reference to god on our currency, have prayers before legislative sessions etc.; because atheism is the official religion??!

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    That's why we force kids to recite a pledge mentioning god, put a reference to god on our currency, have prayers before legislative sessions etc.; because atheism is the official religion??!
    Oh that it was only so subtle. More like when the Courts interpret Freedom of religion as freedom from religion.
    That in the name of disavowing a deity, we rewrite our history to exclude the Faiths of the founders.
    When we disallow any mention of the concept of a deity, we are endorsing the concept of the religion of atheism.

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Don't have time right now, I'm just doing a drive by post between real life projects but the way I understood it this part of the constitution was only applicable to national candidates not state candidates. I'm really pretty sure about this but I will look into it this evening unless someone in the mean time does it for me. ( Hopefully)
    The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution;but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

    I think that should settle the issue.

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Oh that it was only so subtle. More like when the Courts interpret Freedom of religion as freedom from religion.
    What, precisely, do you see as the difference? To me freedom to practice or observe religion necessarily means freedom not to.
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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    It's called states rights.
    States rights to take away people's rights (the only rights that matter in the end).

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    What, precisely, do you see as the difference? To me freedom to practice or observe religion necessarily means freedom not to.
    Correct, but the current interpretation restricts peoples freedom to practice, if said practice occurs on public property.

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElectricWizard View Post
    States rights to take away people's rights (the only rights that matter in the end).
    The people of the state vote on and decide the states laws or at least the legislators that make them.

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