View Poll Results: What do you think of the laws banning atheist from some offices?

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  • Iím against it

    74 67.89%
  • it violates the constitution and should be removed

    70 64.22%
  • itís discrimination

    61 55.96%
  • itís bigotry

    47 43.12%
  • itís disgusting

    36 33.03%
  • I support this

    7 6.42%
  • it does NOT violate the constitution and should stand

    6 5.50%
  • itís NOT discrimination

    2 1.83%
  • itís NOT bigotry

    4 3.67%
  • itís righteousness

    6 5.50%
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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    So you're one of those people who insist that all atheists are exactly alike, but distance yourself from religious whackos who picket veteran funerals and burn Korans in the parking lot, right? Can we spell "hypocrite"?
    Atheist are exactly alike in that they do not believe in any higher power and I have not met one yet who does not seem bitter and angry about life.

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    It's not just me that says that they are wrong, the U.S. Constitution says that they are wrong.

    BTW: That's what I voted in the poll.
    Where in the constitution does it say states can not ban atheist from running for office?

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Are we talking about religion, or ever possible subject under the sun?
    for those that are severely confused, uneducated and or dishonest about this topic its not about religion, see thread title "ATHEIST". The discussion is about discrimination and equal, human and civil rights and its also about whats constitutional so they all apply, try to keep up.

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I disagree with these state constitutions and laws, someone who is an atheist shouldn't have their philosophy barring them from a government office.

    However, is atheism a religion and protected? The constitution guarantees religious freedom and atheism isn't a religion.
    If the constitution guarantees religious freedom, it guarantees freedom from religion. Otherwise, it would be contradictory to the nature of the guarantee itself. In other words, if the constitution allows you to deny the existence of the christian "god", it allows you to deny the existence of any and every god.

    By law it appears that a state can deny people the ability to hold an office if they are a person who is not willing to accept that God exists.
    Only if you don't understand the concept of religious freedom.

    It's a state's rights issue, but I think it's wrong.
    States don't have the right to create religious litmus tests.

    I'm against it, but I also don't think such a practice violates the current US Constitution
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    Torcaso v. Watkins, 367 U.S. 488 (1961) was a United States Supreme Court case in which the court reaffirmed that the United States Constitution prohibits States and the Federal Government from requiring any kind of religious test for public office, in the specific case, as a notary public.
    Actually, it does.
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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    I voted that it is discrimination, because atheism is just as much of a religion
    as any of the others.
    It takes just as much faith to believe in nothing, as to to believe in a Deity.
    Atheism is the currently endorsed religion of the federal Government,
    The endorsement of the religion of atheism over the other faiths, is what is unconstitutional.

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I think there are exceptions such as Washington state just legalizing pot.
    Yes, and Colorado as well, but is it really legal? Could I go to one of those states, buy up twenty acres, and start farming pot and selling it on the open market?
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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Atheist are exactly alike in that they do not believe in any higher power and I have not met one yet who does not seem bitter and angry about life.
    Then you haven't met very many atheists.

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Now Iím not an atheist myself and I know many atheists that do believe in religion just donít think anybody has it right but discrimination is discrimination and it amazed me that these things below are actually in state constitutions. I just learned this in another thread.
    The constitutions of these seven US states ban atheists from holding public office:

    Arkansas:
    "No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any Court."[81]

    Maryland:
    "That no religious test ought ever to be required as a qualification for any office of profit or trust in this State, other than a declaration of belief in the existence of God; nor shall the Legislature prescribe any other oath of office than the oath prescribed by this Constitution.Ē[82]

    Mississippi:
    "No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office in this state."[83]

    North Carolina:
    "The following persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God."[84]

    South Carolina:
    "No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office under this Constitution."[85]

    Tennessee:
    "No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state."[86]

    Texas:
    "No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being."[87]

    An eighth state constitution discriminates against atheists by affording special protection to theists only.
    Pennsylvania:
    "No person who acknowledges the being of a God and a future state of rewards and punishments shall, on account of his religious sentiments, be disqualified to hold any office or place of trust or profit under this Commonwealth."[88]

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    Thatís appalling to me and the purest form of bigotry and discrimination IMO. SO Iím curious where you stand.
    Iíd love to see someone try to enforce this so it can be defeated and destroyed like it should, wonder if there are any recent cases of it.

    What do you think of the laws banning atheist from some offices?

    Iím against it
    it violates the constitution and should be removed
    itís discrimination
    itís bigotry
    itís disgusting
    I support this
    it does NOT violate the constitution and should stand
    itís NOT discrimination
    itís NOT bigotry
    itís righteousness
    Well that's pretty ****ing ridiculous. I didn't realize some states still did that. The Arkansas one was particularly troubling, because of ones lack of belief in any deity they are not considered a competent witness and cannot testify in court . Whaaaat the ****.

    Although it makes me wonder why some atheists get caught up in all the stupid meaningless **** like not wanting religious images on public grounds when certain states don't let them hold public office or testify as a witness in court. The latter is actually something worth fighting for, the former...not so much.
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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    It takes just as much faith to believe in nothing, as to to believe in a Deity.
    I disagree there. I would think it is very much easier to NOT believe there is a pink unicorn in the moon rather than believing there is a pink unicorn in the moon.

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I disagree there. I would think it is very much easier to NOT believe there is a pink unicorn in the moon rather than believing there is a pink unicorn in the moon.
    I understand what you are saying, it has been my experience that the people who
    are vocal about being atheist, are VERY passionate about their lack of beliefs,
    One might almost say zealous.

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