View Poll Results: What do you think of the laws banning atheist from some offices?

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  • Iím against it

    74 67.89%
  • it violates the constitution and should be removed

    70 64.22%
  • itís discrimination

    61 55.96%
  • itís bigotry

    47 43.12%
  • itís disgusting

    36 33.03%
  • I support this

    7 6.42%
  • it does NOT violate the constitution and should stand

    6 5.50%
  • itís NOT discrimination

    2 1.83%
  • itís NOT bigotry

    4 3.67%
  • itís righteousness

    6 5.50%
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Thread: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Although I personally probably would not vote for an avowed atheist, all Americans have the right to participate in our democracy (representative republic for those on a kick to disassociate the branding of the Democratic Party from how American government is defined.)

    - I want my elected officials to be married with children. That would likely mean he cares deeply about how his performance is judged by the people he loves most across gender lines and generations as well as wanting to leave the country in better condition for future generations of his children and grandchildren.

    - I want my elected officials not to live in the petty, school-yard bully political culture.

    - I want my elected officials to see elected office as employees of their constituents, not their constituents' bosses.

    - I want my elected officials to be as least as smart as me, preferably smarter.

    - I want my elected officials to believe in the God of the Bible. This would likely mean he shares my values and more important, with the power that comes with elective office, he'll be someone who believes he's accountable to someone other than himself or his political opposition where due to the way things operate in America he probably doesn't have a high opinion of. I've aso noticed that people who are vocal about their atheism tend to be activists about it. There woud be I think a reasonable concern that a vocal atheist in office would use the power of the office to suppress the rights of people of faith.

    All of these are my personal references but I do not think should be legal requirements for elective office.
    It seems to me that candidates such as you describe are pretty few and far between.

    and that we had one running for president in '12, but he lost the election (unfortunately).
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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Although I personally probably would not vote for an avowed atheist, all Americans have the right to participate in our democracy (representative republic for those on a kick to disassociate the branding of the Democratic Party from how American government is defined.)

    2.)- I want my elected officials to be married with children. That would likely mean he cares deeply about how his performance is judged by the people he loves most across gender lines and generations as well as wanting to leave the country in better condition for future generations of his children and grandchildren.

    3.)- I want my elected officials not to live in the petty, school-yard bully political culture.

    4.) - I want my elected officials to see elected office as employees of their constituents, not their constituents' bosses.

    5.) - I want my elected officials to be as least as smart as me, preferably smarter.

    6.) - I want my elected officials to believe in the God of the Bible. This would likely mean he shares my values and more important, with the power that comes with elective office, he'll be someone who believes he's accountable to someone other than himself or his political opposition where due to the way things operate in America he probably doesn't have a high opinion of.

    7.)I've also noticed that people who are vocal about their atheism tend to be activists about it.

    8.) There woud be I think a reasonable concern that a vocal atheist in office would use the power of the office to suppress the rights of people of faith.

    9.) All of these are my personal references but I do not think should be legal requirements for elective office.
    1.) totally your right and what makes voting great
    2.) atheist do this about anybody else
    3.) atheist do this about anybody else
    4.) atheist do this about anybody else
    5.) atheist are as smart as anybody else

    6.) even with no god atheist believe this way about as much as anybody else

    7.) hmm well this is subjective, i have not noticed, in fact its been the exact opposite for me but this is gonna be different for everybody. In my experience activist are the ones that get more noticed and this is true for everything left, right, religion, non religion etc.

    out of all the atheist i know only one is what i would call activist and his activism has nothing to do with atheist, he is a huge equal rights supporter.

    8.) this is true of any activist, a religious activist would be more likely to push his morals and views and not other religions or non religions too

    9.) i totally understand.

    but the bottom line is your fears or things you simply dont want or do want can be found in anybody.

    the BEST politicians can separate their personal morals and believes from their political job, not a complete separation of course but a very evident one.
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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Are these actually being enforced?
    not that im aware thats why i said id like to see somebody try it because it would get defeated quickly
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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Im sure a lot of politicians are atheists. It wouldnt be politically beneficial to go public with it though .

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Not really. The Supreme Court ruled in Torcaso v Watkins (1961) that these religious tests were unconstitutional. They haven't been removed from the constitutions because that's a pain in the ads and unnecessary.
    I didn't know that or forgot. Its good to know.

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    Im sure a lot of politicians are atheists. It wouldnt be politically beneficial to go public with it though .
    Not that lying is uncommon behavior among politicians, but it is a shame that they cannot be honest about it, but instead are for the most part compelled to hide their real views and possibly even pretend to be religious for the sake of their political aspirations.
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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    It's called states rights.
    States don't have the right to do this. Just because you say states rights doesn't mean they can do whatever the **** they want.
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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    I generally think states should get to choose their laws, but this is ridiculous.
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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    States don't have the right to do this. Just because you say states rights doesn't mean they can do whatever the **** they want.
    Actually I think they do have the right, like it or not.

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    Re: Appalling Discrimination against atheist?

    Has anyone actually been barred from office for being an atheist? There are still laws on the books that you can't drive more than 5 mph and someone has to walk in front with a warning flag.

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