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    Re: Would you vote for an Atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Where does it exist? There is no such thing as EQUALITY of HUMANITY...there's just no evidence of that.
    What is liberty? What is love? What is morality? Do these things exist? The entire world of knowledge is not sole property of concrete concept, abstract formalization exist to. There is such a thing as equality of humanity for at base we are all the same, and we are all the same then there is a point at which you can no longer enact force against my person; and that is what a right is. The limitation of force against an individual for to do so goes against the dignity and worth of humans.

    Rights and morals are product of intelligence and empathy; both inherent processes to humankind. The loftiest of kings and the lowliest of peasant are at base still human.

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Natural right from intelligence translates into? How does that apply to all human beings? Intelligences isn't at all equal among humanity. If it was the world wouldn't probably be in the mess it's in.
    True humans on whole can act rather irrationally; but that doesn't make us not human. Natural rights from intelligence translates into the understanding of limited force against an individual.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Would you vote for an Atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post
    The Constitution defines our governmnet--not our country. Our country was founded by the Declaration of Independence and it does mention both God and a "sampling of our rights".
    No, the DI was a propaganda piece to excuse revolution against the King but to stymie any argument that could be used against the fledgling nation. The Constitution is where theory hits reality.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Would you vote for an Atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What is liberty? What is love? What is morality? Do these things exist? The entire world of knowledge is not sole property of concrete concept, abstract formalization exist to. There is such a thing as equality of humanity for at base we are all the same, and we are all the same then there is a point at which you can no longer enact force against my person; and that is what a right is. The limitation of force against an individual for to do so goes against the dignity and worth of humans.

    Rights and morals are product of intelligence and empathy; both inherent processes to humankind. The loftiest of kings and the lowliest of peasant are at base still human.



    True humans on whole can act rather irrationally; but that doesn't make us not human. Natural rights from intelligence translates into the understanding of limited force against an individual.
    Ikari, gosh...what can I say. Alrighty then...not sure we're from the same country...or world. Sorry, it's all very nice. But that's not how I see the world work, much less our nation.

    Might as well hang with Baron on this one. Might be easier to grasp "god-given"....

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    Re: Would you vote for an Atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post
    Sorry but you've wasted my time and I don't waste my time with people who can't post intelligently and maturely.
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    Re: Would you vote for an Atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, the DI was a propaganda piece to excuse revolution against the King but to stymie any argument that could be used against the fledgling nation. The Constitution is where theory hits reality.

    Well, ****...at least we agree on this. Better than a sharp stick in the eye as they say.

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    Re: Would you vote for an Atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    how about a "she"? :-)
    I have existed a lot longer than political correctness and the perverbial He actually at one time could cover both sexes. There was none of this his/hers or he/she. He included all. I am too darn old to change now. what I said applies to one and all. Even a she/he...
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Would you vote for an Atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Ikari, gosh...what can I say. Alrighty then...not sure we're from the same country...or world. Sorry, it's all very nice. But that's not how I see the world work, much less our nation.

    Might as well hang with Baron on this one. Might be easier to grasp "god-given"....
    Perhaps not, I've read a lot of philosophy on the matter and in the end I cannot see humans for anything more than humans. You don't have the right to take my life, it innate to my humanity. No matter how much money or power or guns you have, without provocation you cannot justly kill me. That limitation of force is due to my innate right to life. Born from the fact that we are all the same, all humans are human and human life has intrinsic value, worth, and decency. Perhaps it's a concept some do not wish to consider or acknowledge, but it makes it no less the truth.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Would you vote for an Atheist?

    Would you vote for or consider voting for an Atheist for any public office?
    I would.

    However, nobody knows who is and is not an atheist in the first place. (except for those mental cases who think they can telepathically read other peoples' minds)

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    Re: Would you vote for an Atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    No, atheists have no morals.
    That is a ridiculous statement to paint them all with the same brush. Some so called religious people have no morals also.
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    Re: Would you vote for an Atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post
    Yet it was Sir Edward Coke that defined the term in the 1500 / 1600's, Blackstone utilized the term in his writings and Jefferson studied Blackstone. Jefferson understood the meaning of the term natural law to mean God's law. You have to redefine the word to make it fit your argument.
    No, I used logic.

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