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    Re: Would you vote for an Atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    I would back up Ikari's response. There's no need to declare natural rights valid only because you have a person in a smock telling you there's a deity (that you've never seen/heard/experienced) backing that up. To me that almost seems shallow. Atheists are able to emphasize the natural value and agency of human beings, because they are intellegent and empathetic human beings themselves.
    Yet history tells us different. When God is driven from a culture (Communism, Socialism, Nazism) humans try to dominate / subjugate one another and I have no idea what is intelligent or empathetic about that.
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    Re: Would you vote for an Atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post
    Yet history tells us different. When God is driven from a culture (Communism, Socialism, Nazism) humans try to dominate / subjugate one another and I have no idea what is intelligent or empathetic about that.
    All gods have been derived from culture and society. They can be used for good or evil, just like pretty much any other human invention through the course of history.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Would you vote for an Atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cecil900 View Post
    If the founders really thought the only person capable of protecting natural rights granted by god, why does Article six of the consitution specifically prohibit religious tests for public office?
    Because our Founders were creating a Republic--not a theocracy.

    However, it is helpful to remember the words of John Adams who actually signed the Constitution:

    "The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God."
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    Re: Would you vote for an Atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cecil900 View Post
    When I thought about doing this poll, I thought that most Americans still wouldn't. But the poll I looked up to post this has apparently changed that information:
    Majority Of Americans Would Vote For An Atheist For President (POLL)

    I would like to ask as a DP poll though, would you vote for or consider voting for an Atheist in any public office, not just the Presidency.

    As a discussion point, I believe there are six states that do not allow Atheists to hold public office, even though that is against the US constitution.

    Also as an Atheist, my vote is naturally yes.
    I'd vote for a scientologist if I had reason to believe he was honest, competent and had his heart in the right place.

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    Re: Would you vote for an Atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post
    From the Declaration of Independence:
    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

    For other rights you may refer to the Bill of Rights.

    Let's go back to your original post:

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron
    No. Atheist are not fit to hold office. Our rights are from God. And since our rights come from God man cannot take them away. But when people stop believing that our rights come from God they start believing that our rights are "granted" by the state. And if the state can "grant" rights it can take those rights away. Atheist will have no philosophical aversion to stripping us our our individual, God-given rights.
    What's god's role in all of this as you claimed in your previous post? When did god publish these so called Natural Rights and where can they be found?

    How would an atheist strip away individual's god given rights? And who is US? Why didn't god do the same for Iran or Cuba or Syria?


    The Declaration of Independence doesn't grant rights. And it certainly doesn't create a government authority to impose and enforce "Natural Rights"....

    In case you haven't noticed, we are a nation that is ruled by laws created by bodies of governments elected by the people?

    How can any person determine who or what my creator is...or isn't for that matter?

    The Bill of Rights...? Certainly an advantage to us, but I won't go as far to say that they are inalienable.

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    Re: Would you vote for an Atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post
    "The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God."[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
    I'm sure those who believed in Zeus felt the same thing during their time as well.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Would you vote for an Atheist?

    If they were Conservative and adequately represented my values? Sure, I can't see any particular reason why I shouldn't vote for an atheist.

    Unfortunately, however; most of the high profile atheists with which I am familiar tend to Liberal and rather vitriolically opposed to my values to say the very least.

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    Re: Would you vote for an Atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    If they were Conservative and adequately represented my values? Sure, I can't see any particular reason why I shouldn't vote for an atheist.

    Unfortunately, however; most of the high profile atheists with which I am familiar tend to Liberal and rather vitriolically opposed to my values to say the very least.
    I invariably feel the same way about "high profile" Christians. Most of the low profile Christians I've personally known have been very good people.

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    Re: Would you vote for an Atheist?

    To the four people who said no as of now, you are the reason why the United States is in a bad position. The mindset that the only people that should be able to run a country are ones that are religiously affiliated is absolutely ridiculous. Atheists would make a much less bias choice for a politician, not passing laws based on one religion over another. Closed minded people are the reason why we are stuck in neutral.
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    Re: Would you vote for an Atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Unfortunately, however; most of the high profile atheists with which I am familiar tend to Liberal and rather vitriolically opposed to my values to say the very least.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I invariably feel the same way about "high profile" Christians. Most of the low profile Christians I've personally known have been very good people.
    That's because all groups have a natural distribution of reasonable folk and crazy folk, and the crazy folk in all groups tend to be the loudest.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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